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Offline sheiljoy

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Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« on: Thursday 15 January 09 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

I am trying to find the marriage of Betty L Ley born 1915 in Wales and her sister Peggy E Ley born 1917 also in Wales.

They emigrated to Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania around 1928

Any information would be much appreciated on how I can go about this

Sheila
These are the names I am researching and the further I delve the further apart the country is. Clarke, Fitt, Foulkes, French, Harris, Hobbs, Mckenna, Mottoul, Pugh, Scull, Smith, Spalding, Sprigg, Thomas, Wright. A right mixture here, England, Ireland, Wales & Belgium

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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 January 09 00:15 GMT (UK) »
I found Betty, Peggy, their mother, and their siblings on a passenger list for the Aquitania arriving New York 15 Mar 1927 from Southampton.  I also found them on the 1930 Census, if you need that information.

Do you have any information about when/where/who they might have married?  Any information about what happened to their parents or siblings?

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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 January 09 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for getting back to me with the info you have found, if I could have the 1930 census details I would be very grateful

I do know that they ended up living in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania, which could come under Luzerne, sorry I am a little vague with all this but it is all I know.  All I have is a photo of a chap with my Gran in about the early 1950's and the name on the back is Eddie Sylvan, which for years I took 'Sylvan'as being his surname but have found family births in Wales for 'Sylvan' Idris Ley and Stafford as a Christian name too

Thanks for you time though it is very much appreciated

Sheila
These are the names I am researching and the further I delve the further apart the country is. Clarke, Fitt, Foulkes, French, Harris, Hobbs, Mckenna, Mottoul, Pugh, Scull, Smith, Spalding, Sprigg, Thomas, Wright. A right mixture here, England, Ireland, Wales & Belgium

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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 January 09 13:49 GMT (UK) »
1930 Census, Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co., Pennsylvania, 22 South Sherman Street

Ley, Robert J., head, rents home for $55, owns radio set, does not live on a farm, male, white, age 48, married, age at 1st marriage - 18, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1925, papers filed for naturalization, occupation - coal miner, not a veteran

wife Amelia, female, white, age 49, married, age at 1st marriage - 19, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, no occupation

son Sydney S., male, white, age 24, single, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, occupation - something in a coal mine (looks like trash layer?)

son Ivor M., male, white, age 22, single, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, occupation - coal miner

son Sylvan J., male, white, age 18, single, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, occupation - store manager

daughter Betty L., female, white, age 14, single, attending school, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, no occupation

daughter Peggy J., female, white, age 12, single, attending school, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, no occupation

son William J., male, white, age 29, married, age at 1st marriage - 18, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, occupation - coal miner, not a veteran

grandson Stafford, male, white, age 9, attending school, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, no occupation

grandson Ruskin, male, white, age 8, attending school, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, no occupation

daughter Wilkinson, Annie R., female, white, age 26, married, age at 1st marriage - 26, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, no occupation


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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 January 09 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Found this and thought it might be the same Ruskin, although the birth place is a little off in one of them.

Social Security Death Index
Ruskin Ley
Last Residence - Middletown, Middlesex Co., Connecticut, Born 25 Sep. 1921
Died Apr. 1983
SSN issued in Pennsylvania before 1951
 
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001
Ruskin Ley
Died 28 Apr. 1983 in Middletown, Connecticut
Born 25 Sep. 1921 in Canada
Married 
Residence - 40 Meadow Brook Rd., Middletown, Connecticut
Race - White 
 
Also, in WWII Enlistment records there is this -

Ruskin Ley
Birth Year - 1921 
Race - White, citizen
Nativity Country - Channel Islands or England or Great Britain or Isle of Man or Northern Ireland or Scotland or Wales 
Luzerne, Pennsylvania 
Enlisted 14 Jun. 1944 in New Cumberland, Pennsylvania 
Education - 3 years of high school 
Civil Occupation - Machinists Helper 
Marital Status - Married 


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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 January 09 14:25 GMT (UK) »
SS Aquitania from Southampton arriving New York 15 Mar 1927

Ley, Amelia, age 46, married, housewife, born Swansea, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, nearest relative in country from whence she came - sister Annie Rees, Sunny Bank, Bryhavon Terr., Hengoed Glam, going to join husband Robert Ley, 358 (?) E. Market St., Wilkes Barre, Pa., coming permanently, 5'6" tall, medium complexion, brown hair, blue eyes, limp of left leg from thigh

son Ley, William J.R., age 25, male, miner, married, born Swansea, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, 5'8" tall, medium complexion, brown hair, blue eyes

daughter Ley, Annie R., age 23, single, domestic, born Nanty Moel, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, 5'5" tall, medium complexion, brown hair, blue eyes

son Ley, Ivor M., age 19, single, miner, born Nanty Moel, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, 5'6" tall, medium complexion, brown hair, blue eyes

son Ley, Sylvin I., age 15, single, miner, born Nanty Moel, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, 5'6" tall, medium complexion, brown hair, grey eyes

daughter Ley, Betty L., age 11, scholar, born Nanty Moel, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, 4'10" tall, fair complexion, fair hair, blue eyes

daughter, Ley, Peggy E., age 9, scholar, born Nanty Moel, Wales, last permanent residence - Nanty Moel, Wales, 4'5" tall, medium complexion, brown hair, brown eyes



SS Berengaria, sailing from Southampton to New York, arriving 17 Nov. 1928

Ley, Robert J.S., age 8, male, single, scholar, born Nanty Moel, Wales, last permanent residence - Hengoed, Wales, nearest relative in country from whence he came - uncle John Rees, Sunny Bank, Brynavon TCC. Hengoed, going to join father W.J.R. Ley & grandparents, 30 South Sherman St., Wilkes-Barre, Pa., staying permanently, 3 ft. 9 inches tall, fair complexion and hair, brown eyes,

Ley, Ruskin, age 7, male, single, scholar, born Ogmore Vale, Wales, last permanent residence - Hengoed, Wales, nearest relative in country from whence he came - uncle John Rees, Sunny Bank, Brynavon TCC. Hengoed, going to join father  W.J.R. Ley & grandparents, 30 South Sherman St., Wilkes-Barre, Pa., staying permanently, 4 ft. 2 inches tall, fair complexion, brown hair and eyes

They appear to be traveling without any relatives.

A possible match -
WWII Draft Registration Card
Robert John Ley
46 N. Thomas St., Kingston, Luzerne, Pa.
Telephone # Kingston 76604
Age 62, born 9 Feb. 1883 in S. Wales
Name of person who will always know his address:  Idress Ley, 136 Horton St., Wilkes-Barre
Employer:  J.B. Carr, Pennsylvania Ave., Wilkes-Barre
Place of employment:  Pennsylvania Ave., Wilkes-Barre

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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 January 09 14:49 GMT (UK) »
SS Aquitania, from Southampton to New York arriving 27 Nov. 1925

Ley, Robert J., age 45, male, married, last permanent residence - Nantymoel, Wales, nearest relative in country from whence he came - wife A. Ley, Cemetery House, Nantymoel, in possession of $250, going to join friend Mrs. A. Thomas, Meade Street, Wilkes-Barre, PA, coming permanently, 5'9" tall, fair complexion, grey hair, blue eyes, born Swansea, Wales

Ley, Sidney S., age 20, male, single, miner, last permanent residence - Nantymoel, Wales, nearest relative in country from whence he came - mother Amelia Ley, Cemetery House, Nantymoel, going to join friend Mrs. A. Thomas, Meade Street, Wilkes-Barre, PA, coming permanently, 5'10" tall, fair complexion, brown hair, blue eyes, born Nantymoel, Wales


M.V. Georgic from Liverpool to New York, arriving 30 Aug. 1934

Ley, Sylvin Idris, age 22, male, single, grocer clerk, place of birth - Latymol, Wales, last permanent residence - Wilkesbarre, USA, nearest relative in country from whence he came - Aunt Mrs. Rees, Sunnybank, Bryanavon Terrace, Hengoes South Wales, final destination - Wilkes-Barre, PA, previously in Wilkes-Barre for 8 years, last departed 30/6/1934, going to home at S. Sherman Street, Wilkes-Barre, PA, staying permanently, 5'10", fair complexion, dark brown hair, blue eyes

SS Evangeline, from Nassau, Bahamas 23 Aug. 1950 to New York 26 Aug. 1950

Ley, Sylvin, age 39, male, married, 163 Horton St., Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, born England, passport from Aug. 1942 from Wilkes Barre, Pa.

Ley, Bertha, age 38, female, married, 163 Horton St., Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, born Pennsylvania

There was also an 11 year old male with the surname Ley living at the same location, born PA, and traveling with them.  Since he's more likely to still be living, I'll leave out his first name.


Social Security Death Index
Stafford Ley
Last Residence & Benefit - Wilkes Barre, Luzerne Co., Pennsylvania
Born 31 May 1920
Died Mar. 1986
SSN issued in Pennsylvania 
 
As far as the marriages go, without any specific information, I suspect you may have to sort of work backwards - for example, if you can find a death of one of their parents or siblings, an obituary may give a married name.

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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 January 09 16:12 GMT (UK) »
1930 Census, Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co., Pennsylvania, 22 South Sherman Street

son Sydney S., male, white, age 24, single, b. Wales, parents b. Wales, immigrated 1926, papers filed for naturalization, occupation - something in a coal mine (looks like trash layer?)

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As usual, it's almost impossible to add more to Shelly's discoveries. But here's my two cents or two pence or two one-hundredths of a euro, given in deference to Sydney's working as a coal miner: His occupation probably was track layer, referring to laying rails to move coal cars in and out of a mine.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Marriage Look Up in Pennsylvania
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 January 09 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, sheiljoy and shelly: On a lark I went MSN and Yahoo and searched for Ley. Found two highly probable descendants. If you want I can PM you the info.

Regards,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts