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Offline dinie

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1911 census advice please
« on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Ok, like everyone I have eagerly awaited this as I hoped it would help me. Not yet, it seems  ??? so I am looking for some pointers on how best to search before I make myself bankrupt with the cost  ;D  ;D

The info I have is as follows

1901 Census - Eynseford, Kent
Mary Jane Hill, Head, b 1843 Canada
Sarah Ann Adams, daughter, b 1874 Lancashire
William Robert Adams, grandson, b 1898 Wandsworth

Along with Sarah's sister Florence Hill & brothers William Hill & James Hill.

Sarah then moved about as she had her children

Pretoria May Hill, b 02/07/1901, 3 Best Cottages, Crockenhill, Kent
Annie Elizabeth Pearce Adams, b 09/12/1903, 3 Tylers Hill, Crockenhill, Kent
Frederick Charles Donald Adams, b 26/01/1906, 7 Alexander terrace, Swanley, Kent

There is then a gap until another 2 daughters

Maude Evans Adams, b 12/02/1912, 37 West Hill, Dartford
Emily Adams, b c1913 (not found her birth yet) d 1915 Dartford workhouse.

In 1914/1915 Sarah & some of the children are in the dartford workhouse, where Sarah dies, so I am assuming they stayed around the Kent area.

I have looked at Alexander Terrace and West Hill but can't seem to find any of them as either Adams or Hill (Sarah used whichever name she felt like).

So, can anybody give me some advice on how to try and find this family in 1911. Are these addresses all in the same area of Kent so I could just put one place in, or am I destined to spend a furtune searching?

All advice gratefully received (by my bank balance especially  ::) ;D )

Thanks

dinie



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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if its the right one but there is a Pretoria M Hill living in Dursley Gloucestershire of the right age?

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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dinie

Have a look at this thread, some useful tips

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,353037.0.html


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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:17 GMT (UK) »
I can see a Frederick Adams b 1906 in an Institution (Dartford)

That dursley one seems to have Daniel (1863 ) & Isabella (1868) as head.

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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi dinie

Sarah, Annie and Frederick Adams are all in an "institution" in Dartford in 1911, presumably the workhouse.  Can't find a Pretoria May Hill 1901, but there is an Ethel Pretoria Hill born 1901 living in a Household in Bromley Kent.  Just located them by entering their names and Kent in the search page, which is free.  You then have a choice of paying for credits, either to see the transcription (10 credits) or the original (30 credits).  You should only need one transcription or original to see all three, assuming they are in the same insitution.  

Incidentally, if you have registered previously with 1837.online or findmypast, you should use the same password (I found this out the hard way. ;D)

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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:25 GMT (UK) »
There is a May Adams in the institution in Dartford as well bn 1902 - could this be Pretoria

Rosie
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:36 GMT (UK) »
There is only one William Robert Adams b 1898, and he had the additional name Charles and is living in Rye in Sussex.  There is a William Adams in a Dartford household, and then a couple of others in Kent.
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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 January 09 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dinie,

The Bromley family are actually in Chelsfield (RD42 SD3 ED2). Here's the rest of the household:

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Re: 1911 census advice please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 January 09 17:23 GMT (UK) »
All I can say is WOW - yet again Rc'ers respond so quickly.

Thank you for all you replies, I wasn't expecting you to look for them but I will check them all out.

Pretoria (My Grandmother) was always known as May (and her surname changes from Hill to Adams at some point too) but Rosie may have found her. The three Gillg also found look promising too. (I too found out the hard way about getting into the site  :D )

I guess I was expecting them to be in a household somewhere, didn't consider they may have been in the workhouse/institution prior to the 1914/15 one.

Thanks again, now this may kickstart me researching again.

dinie
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