Author Topic: COMPLETED What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?  (Read 3545 times)

Offline Tigsy

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 861
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
COMPLETED What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« on: Monday 19 January 09 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help me find out what happened to Ann Pain (parents were John and Mary) - I know she was born in Lamborne in Feb 1818, but can not trace any other information about her.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Kind regards
COLLINS - St Pancras, Kentish Town
LANGLEY - Kentish Town, Camden, Islington, Barnet
MCDONALD - St Pancras, London
CARTER - Kentish Town
HOWARD - Pimlico, Kentish Town, Surrey, Sussex
PROUDLEY - Kent, Sussex
TAYLOR - Devon
GREEN - Somerset
BARRELL - St Pancras, London
ANDERSON - Pimlico, Kentish Town
BROWN - Fenton, Staffs
BRUNT - Fenton/Longton Staffs

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,273
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 January 09 00:56 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the parent's marriage?:
(IGI extracted)
John Pain = Mary Ann Wait
9 Nov 1817
Lambourn

There are several other children (siblings for Ann) also b Lambourn.

Do you know anything more about Ann? She may have married prior to the 1841 census so unless you find her marriage, you won't know her surname to find her in the censuses.  :-\

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,273
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 January 09 01:06 GMT (UK) »
Looking through FreeBMD I found this:
Marriages Dec 1842
Payne Ann
Hungerford (which covers Lambourn)
vol 6
page 356

to either:
Joseph Harris
Henry Radbourn
Roger Spanswick
or Jason Spanswick

I will see if I can find any of these couples in the censuses to see who paried up with who.

Of course your Ann may not even have married ... or may have died young ...

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,273
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 January 09 01:17 GMT (UK) »
Afraid I can't see an Ann*b Berkshire married to Joseph, Henry, jason or Roger in the 1851 census.  :-\

An Ann married one of them!

I will look at 1861.

Nope - no luck there either. When was the last time you spotted Ann Pain?


Offline Tigsy

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 861
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 January 09 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, it is a mystery.

I have checked and not found Ann at all - I have managed to trace what happened to all her brothers and sisters (her sister Catherine Payne is my Gt Gt Grandmother), it is just Ann I can't locate.

Interesting that Eliza Paynes son (Anns sister), Robert Dimmer, married into the Spanswick family in Marylebone in 1876, especially when I would have thought it was an unusual name.

I am hoping at some point to get a copy of the marriage for John Pain and Mary Ann Wait so I can taken that further as they were my Gt Gt Gt Grandparents.

Kind regards
COLLINS - St Pancras, Kentish Town
LANGLEY - Kentish Town, Camden, Islington, Barnet
MCDONALD - St Pancras, London
CARTER - Kentish Town
HOWARD - Pimlico, Kentish Town, Surrey, Sussex
PROUDLEY - Kent, Sussex
TAYLOR - Devon
GREEN - Somerset
BARRELL - St Pancras, London
ANDERSON - Pimlico, Kentish Town
BROWN - Fenton, Staffs
BRUNT - Fenton/Longton Staffs

Offline Galium

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,133
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 January 09 14:53 GMT (UK) »
There's a widower Roger Spanswick in 1851:

Class: HO107; Piece: 1833; Folio: 319; Page: 2

He is aged 34 employed as a servant in Wanborough and has a 7 year old Albert Spanswick with him, born in Eastbury, Berkshire.
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Tigsy

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 861
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 January 09 15:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, is that near Lambourne, Berks?

Is there a burial listed for an Ann Spanswick, that may give a clue.

Kind regards
COLLINS - St Pancras, Kentish Town
LANGLEY - Kentish Town, Camden, Islington, Barnet
MCDONALD - St Pancras, London
CARTER - Kentish Town
HOWARD - Pimlico, Kentish Town, Surrey, Sussex
PROUDLEY - Kent, Sussex
TAYLOR - Devon
GREEN - Somerset
BARRELL - St Pancras, London
ANDERSON - Pimlico, Kentish Town
BROWN - Fenton, Staffs
BRUNT - Fenton/Longton Staffs

Offline Tigsy

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 861
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 January 09 15:36 GMT (UK) »
I can't find a baptism for Albert on the IGI index which is a shame!  Thanks for looking.
Kind regards
COLLINS - St Pancras, Kentish Town
LANGLEY - Kentish Town, Camden, Islington, Barnet
MCDONALD - St Pancras, London
CARTER - Kentish Town
HOWARD - Pimlico, Kentish Town, Surrey, Sussex
PROUDLEY - Kent, Sussex
TAYLOR - Devon
GREEN - Somerset
BARRELL - St Pancras, London
ANDERSON - Pimlico, Kentish Town
BROWN - Fenton, Staffs
BRUNT - Fenton/Longton Staffs

Offline Galium

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,133
    • View Profile
Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 January 09 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Found this:
http://www.geocities.com/keeto111/spanswick/spanswick.html

Almost at the bottom of the page you will find details of the marriage of Roger Spanswick and Ann Pain both of Eastbury at Lambourn 22 November 1842. No father's names given, Witnesses Charles Smith and Elizabeth Pain.

UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk