John Davies Penrhewngardd Fawr

[margaret davies]

   Hello, I wonder if someone can help me with this problem,,
  I am looking for JOHN DAVIES b 1767at LLANTWIT Neath also his wife ANN   b Llantwit Neath  living on PENRHEWNGARDD FAWR farm could be under TONNA or LLantwit Lower for the 1841  census, I have them on the 1851    but there seems to be 3 families living there and I would like to know if they are all related,   Many thanks Marg,,

[shirl100]

Hi there

There is an entry in the 1841 census for Penrhugarad, Llantwit Lower, but showing John's wife as Alice, could have been transcribed wrong of course

John aged 75 farmer
Alice aged 70
William aged 40 ag labourer
John aged 25 labourer

HO107 peice 1421 folio 18/35 page 4

Shirl

[margaret davies]

   Hi Shirl,  Thank you so much for looking, this seems to be them, are they all DAVIES?   John the son is on the 1851 census married with 4 children  his wifes name is ELIZABETH, have you got the 1861 and 1871 census there that you could check for me if it is not too much trouble,  thanks again Marg,,

[shirl100]

  Hi Shirl,  Thank you so much for looking, this seems to be them, are they all DAVIES?   John the son is on the 1851 census married with 4 children  his wifes name is ELIZABETH, have you got the 1861 and 1871 census there that you could check for me if it is not too much trouble,  thanks again Marg,,

Hi Marg

Yes on the 1841 they were all shown as Davies. I think this is the 1861 census for John junior assuming he was born at Lantwit - RG09 piece 4087 folio 39 page 15

Penrhiwngarad Fawr, Lantwit

John age 46, head  farmer and haulier, Lantwit
Elizabeth age 36 wife Cardiff
Gwenllian age 17 unmarried dressmaker, Lantwit
John age 15 unmarried, boat haulier Lantwit
William age 13 Briton Ferry
Llewellyn age 11 Lantwit
Philip age 9 Lantwit
Thomas age 7 Lantwit
Elizabeth age 5 Lantwit
Mary age 3 Lantwit
Ann age 1 Lantwit

Will see if I can find them in 1871

Shirl

[shirl100]

Hi again

1871 Penrhiwngarad Uchaf, Lantwit (all children b Lantwit Juxta Neath and Elizabeth's birthplace also shown as that) RG10 piece 5432 folio 21 page 19

Elizabeth  46, head, widow, farmer of 60 acres employing 1 labourer
Gwenllian  26, farmers daughter
John 25 labourer canal
Lllewellyn 20 farm servant
Philip 18 engine stoker
Thomas 16 scholar
Elizabeth 15 scholar
Mary Catherine 12 scholar
Morgan 8 scholar
David Morgan 5 scholar

All the best

Shirl

[margaret davies]

   Thanks Shirl, It seems that they had a large family 11children, I know the farm fairly well, the farmhouse is not all that big , where did they put them all???
  Thanks for looking up this information, much appreciated,   Marg,,