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Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« on: Saturday 31 January 09 16:13 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for the birth of my wife's mother.
She was married to Harry Martin in 1925
The marrage certificate gave her name as Eileen Marjorie Hunt otherwise Hayes
The farther's name left blank.
I first met my wife in 1945, at that time her household was:-
John William Hayes known as Grandfather
Harry Martin Father
Eileen Marjorie Martin Mother
Eveline Eileen Martin Daughter
I have just looked at the 1911 census to find that:-
John  William Hayes Head
Arabella Hayes Wife
Eileen Marjorie Baxton adopted daughter  7 years old borne Cardiff Wales.
The address given is a known address for J W Hayes from family post cards.
Arabella died 1920
John died 1951
Eileen died 1982.
Can anyone help to find the birth of Eileen Marjorie????
HELP PLEASE EJ

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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 January 09 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I wonder why she took Arabella's maiden name, Hunt, when John and Arabella married in 1890. Could she have been the illegitimate daughter of a sister maybe? The only Eileen Marjorie birth I could find in the right period was of an Eileen Marjorie Baxter b. Sept 1905 Isle of Wight. Have you seen the actual census image or just a transcription?
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 January 09 17:23 GMT (UK) »
What about this???

don't know if it is your family but

1901 shows
John William hayes 34
Arabella wife 37 b park Gate Yorks
and with them is a servant
Susannah marion Blexell15 b london
RG13 8 161 21

I have found Susannah's birth reg (paddington district)

Then in census 1891 it looks like Susannah's mother is married to a Martin and Susannah is entered as martin

then there is a birth
FreeBMD
Eileen marjorie Blaxill
Sept qtr 1906
Lewisham
1d 1195

I'll get more detail to post -or is this too complicated??

Suz
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 January 09 17:41 GMT (UK) »
let's put my ramblings in order

is this your family??
1901
101 warwick Rd paddington
John William hayes head M 34 Warehouseman's assistant (ladies and children's outfitters Pinxton Derbys
Arabella wife 37 Professor of Music Parkgate Yorks
Susannah marion Blaxell servant u 15 Gen don Paddington
sarah ?ere U 55 Living on own means Hampstead
RG13 8 161 21

Birth reg freeBMD
Susannah marion Blaxall
Dec qtr 1887
Paddington
1a 42

Birth reg FreeBMD
Eileen marjorie Blaxill
Sept qtr 1906
lewisham
1d 1195

Suz
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 January 09 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Looks good to me Suz!  :)

....so did they adopt the baby cos he was the father or just out of charity???

and Eileen's grandmother (Susannah's mum) was married to a Martin and then Eileen herself went on to marry a Martin? Or am I getting muddled?  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 January 09 18:23 GMT (UK) »
well

I've found a Susanna M Martin age 5 with parents Joseph and Susannah in 1891

I'll post the census and see what you think

Suz
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 January 09 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Do you think Susannah is the Susannah Blaxall marrying in Paddington in 1908 to Frederick James or William Triptree?

amended: she married Frederick James I think as there are two births (Frederick W and George) in 1911 and 1915 with mmn Blaxall
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 January 09 18:35 GMT (UK) »
I think the Susannah M Martin may well be Susannah martha martin -so we can cancel that coincidence!!!

I cannot find Susannah marion Blexall(Blexell) in 1891!

I'll hve another look - trying to not be too imaginative!!!

Suz

Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Hunt Otherwise Hayes
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 February 09 15:11 GMT (UK) »
well I've had a look around -can't find Susanah M Blxall anywere in 1891- found a Susanah M Saunders 8 b lambeth living with grt gran Elizabeth Osborne and uncle John Duffy ??

I wonder if - this is my imagination- the hayes were fond of their ervant (Susannah) - maybe she went to take up a position in Cardiff and they kept in touch? Eileen was maybe not b in cardiff -perhaps Susannah went home to have the baby???

Perhaps Eileen took on the name Hunt Hayes -and that's why she is down as hayes fromerly Hunt.

Wonder if there are any school records which could give info on what name she used?

I'll have another ponder over the weekend

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk