Hughes, Davies, Manley, Orchard

[devonblue]

Hi,
I am researching my partner's family and have Robert Hughes aka Jones and Sarah possibly Davies as his Great Great Grandparents. their daughter Sarah married Charles Manley in Offwell Devon in 1891 Witnesses were Leonard Hughes and Patience Orchard.  I have drawn a blank as far as Robert Hughes's wife Sarah and Robert Hughes's headstone in Honiton Cemetery doesn't give anything away!

I am looking for information about the Manley family too.  Charles Manley I think was born in Uplyme in 1870, I have a birth certificate which I feel (after 9 years of searching) is probably the correct one, his parents being Henry Manley and Matilda nee Wells. On his marriage certificate he said his father was Harry Manley a Horse dealer and certainly his brothers went on to be horse dealers and he himself is recorded as such on his marriage certificate. As for his Mother the only possible one on  a census is called Emily in 1891 so that was no help, in 1871 she was called Matilda the same as on the tentative birth certificate I have.

If anyone has any links to any of these families I would love to hear from you, after all these years of searching with very little to go on I need a break!

Thanks

[deb usa]

Hi

In 1891
Honiton
Aylesbeare Common
Robert HUGHES head mar 69 licensed hawker b Honiton
Sarah wife 63 b gloucestershire
Joseph son 36 Lic.hawker b Somersetshire
Leonard son 26 lic. hawker b Offwell devon...... witness at Sarah's marriage to Charles Manley?
SARAH dau 21 b Wellington somerset
/
Edwin ORCHARD head widr 48 lic. hawker b Pitminster, somerset
Betty dau 20 lic hawker b taunton somerset
John son 15 lic hawker b Honiton devon
Sarah jane dau 12 b ditto
Peter son 10 b ditto
Noah HUGHES 30 servant b Membury Devon


  will look for more

deb

[deb usa]

hi again

in 1871 they are travelling 'gipsies' under the name JONES... in tents in Somerset, Chipstable, Old Way. they have a lot more children.

Robert JONES = 52 b honiton
Sarah = 48 Glos
Charles son 25 somerset Chard
Robert son 20 Curry Rival Som.
Joey son 16 Honiton
Tilly dau 12 Ditto
Fiance dau 10 ditto
Vashty dau 7 b Bishop Lideard?, Som
John son 6 b Wellington Som
Leonard son 3 Honiton
SARAH dau 1 b Williton Som
Caroline Radman dau mar 28, somerset
Henry Radman grandson 5, Somerset Langport

can't see them in 1861 yet .... working backwards to see if we can find Sarah's maiden name ...

deb

[deb usa]

hi

from IGI we have this extracted record

Robert Hughes s/o Robert Hughes and Mary
 30 JAN 1818   Honiton On Otter, Devon
 

[deb usa]

Hi

have been looking for the births of their children ....

The only one I can find is Joseph Hughes b 1855 Honiton....this would at least give you Sarah's maiden name!

Joseph Hughes
Sept q 1855
Honiton, Devon
vol 5b p 20


deb

[deb usa]

 

re ; the Manley family

In 1871 they are all in old Fore Street, Ships inn, Sidmouth.
Henry Manley mar 44 hawker b exeter
Matilda 47 b exeter
Robert 18 cane worker b Withicombe
William 16 hawker b sidmouth
James 14 b Bridport Dorset
pincis? son 6 b Ditto
Mary ann 4 b ditto
CHARLES 11months b LYME, Dorset

marriage
Henry Manley = Matilda Wells
Jun q 1847 
 Bridport dorset
vol 8 pg 68

there is a Henry (37) and Matilda (38) Manly (sic) both born Bridport Dorset , in the 1861 census..they don't seem to add up to your family tho.

In 1901 I can see a Charles Manley and wife sarah living in Wellington, Somerset on Monument Hill in a caravan.
Charles is a travelling hawker, 31, b DORSET as is Sarah.
their children are Pearly 8, Sarah 5, Phinius dau 7 weeks, Caroline 7 and Charles 4, b Somerset.... all children except Charles b devon.

umm ... i am all over the place ... sorry .... they just seem hard to pinpoint.

deb

[devonblue]

Hi, Thanks for confirming  these which I already have along with lots of other Manleys.

Sarah and Robert Hughes daughter Sarah I believe was born in Williton, Somerset about 1870 although I haven't found a birth certificate for her. Some censuses she is recorded as being born in Wellington and I can't find a birth there but one census says Williton so I'm going to try that one.

As for her mother one census says she was born in Langport so that's another possibility.

It's really the father Harry/Henry Manley I am more interested in rather then the Hughes as I have loads of them!

I have the marriage cert for Henry Manley and Matilda Wells they are definitely the 1861 family you refer to and do have all the right children.

Are they in your tree?

[deb usa]

Hi

No they are not in my tree , although I do have Orchards!

I am a littlel confused with the Manleys ....

we have Henry and Matilda b Exeter, devon and then a couple, Henry and Matilda b Bridport ...are they one and the same couple?

It just seems that the 1861 couple (both born Bridport) have a totally different family to the Henry and Matilda b Exeter.

deb

[devonblue]

Sorry typo!!

The 1871 family are def the right ones (for 'my' Charles) was what I was trying to say, you are right the 1861 ones are totally different.

I have the marriage cert for Henry Manley and Matilda Wills/Wells and also a birth cert for Charles Manley b 1870 parents Henry Manley and Matilda nee Wills/Wells.  What has hampered me is that I only had Charles's marriage cert for a long time and on that he said his father was Harry Manley, Horse dealer. Charles brothers all went on to be horse dealers and he himself is described as one in one reference but for years I could not tie up Harry with Henry.