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Completed.Thanks Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s). Completed.
« on: Monday 09 February 09 20:35 GMT (UK) »
 Hi everyone, I need some help.

I have a death cert for my G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s) showing him as dying on 13 Jan 1876 in the Union Workhouse, Abergavenny.

Can anyone help me to find out where he was buried please?

I'd be really grateful,

Barbara.
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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 February 09 22:14 GMT (UK) »
doesn't look like he was buried in the parish church of Abergavenny at any rate

www.rootschat.com/links/05j0/

Which parish was he from? If he died in the workhouse, it's unlikely he'll have a marked grave.
 

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 February 09 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

Thomas originally came from Trefonen, Nr Oswestry, Shropshire where he worked as a collier,then he worked for many years in Staffordshire , eventually ending his days in Abergavenny.

If he isn't buried in the Parish Churchyard there, where would he have been buried?

Did the Workhouse have it's own area for burials?

I've been trying to confirm his final resting place for a long time so I'm hoping someone may have the answer.

Thanks

Barbara.
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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Have to say it's a bit puzzling. There are burials mentioned in the link I gave you that state 'Union House'. Was he non-conformist and so not buried in the parish church?

I've had a look at this site
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/
and it appears that there are quite a lot of records for the Abergavenny workhouse at the Gwent Record Office, including Admission/Discharge registers 1843-1914 and Register of Deaths 1836 - 1893. Deaths should be in the discharge registers.

http://www.torfaen.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/GwentRecordsOffice/Home.aspx

You can email them and they will let you know if they can find anything.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Osprey,

Thanks for your reply.

Did the list you kindly sent show the 'Parish Church' burials ?

I'm not sure but I think My GGGt Grandad may have been a Methodist.

Would that make any difference?

I suspect you're right in thinking that he probably is in an unmarked grave ( no money) but I still would like to know where.

I appreciate your help

Barbara.
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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that was part of the transcript of the parish burials and yes, it does make a difference if he was non-conformist. On admission to the workhouse, he would havebeen asked about his denomination. The local Methodist circuit may have had its own burial ground

www.rootschat.com/links/05jb/

One of the problems with methodist records is that they were organised into circuits and the records do not necessarily stay with the church. However, some of the records of the Abergavenny circuit are at the records office.

I still think they are your best bet.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Osprey,

I've taken your advice and E Mailed Gwent Record Office, to see if they can help.

I'll let you know the results !!

Barbara.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Oh please do! I hope I haven't sent you on a wild goose chase & fingers crossed there are some records that will help you.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help me find G G Gt Grandad Thomas Howell(s).
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Osprey,

well, a wild goose chase or not - it's got to be worth a chance.

I'm grateful for your help.

I wait......................

Barbara.
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