1787 marriage - Saint Nicholas, Liverpool

[daval57]

Hi,
I'd like to get more information on the following marriage which I got from IGI.

6 January 1787
James Forrest married Margaret Hutton

I believe this couple moved to Stirlingshire, Scotland as I have records for 4 children to these names in Stirlings.  This marriage is the only one I can find on IGI.

As I don't venture into English records very often, I am unsure what sort of detail is on the record.  Nor do I know how to check for their births / parents / siblings.

I'd appreciate any help or advice you can give me.

Thanks

Dave

[CaroleW]

Hi

You would not get either of their fathers names as they were only shown on marriages post- Civil Registration (1.7.1837)  - mothers names are never shown on English marriage certs

If both were over 21yrs when they married - it will just show "full age" so no clues as to their birthyears.  It may show his occupation

You would get witnesses names but unless they were the same surname(s) it may not help

If they satisfied the residential requirements for banns - they may be shown as "of this parish"  This doesn't necessarily mean they were born in Liverpool as many people gave "convenience" addresses to enable them to marry in a particular area

 

[daval57]

Thanks Carole.
For future reference, how would I go about applying for a copy of an English record?

Dave

[CaroleW]

Hi

This may (or may not) be some of their children.  Peggy is a corruption of Margaret.

JAMES FORREST   Christening:  14 OCT 1787   Benns Garden Or Renshaw Street Presbyterian  Liverpool
Father:  JAMES FORREST     Mother:  PEGGY  

ELEANOR FORREST  Christening:  AUG 1789   Benns Garden Or Renshaw Street Presbyterian   Liverpool  
Father:  JAMES FORREST    Mother:  PEGGY  

Renshaw St is in the city centre as is St Nicholas.  

[CaroleW]

Hi

I am sending you a pm re: your query about copy record

[daval57]

Thanks, I wouldn't have thought to look for Peggy.

Whether that's the correct children? 

Dave

and thanks for PM too.

[JAP]

Hello Dave,

I have transcriptions of some marriage entries from St Nicholas around that time.

All of mine state whether the marriage was by Licence or by Banns, give the address and occupation of the groom, and the names of the Minister and the Witnesses.

Baptismal entries that I have also give the address and occupation of the father.

I too noticed those baptisms to James & Peggy - and was interested to see that they were in a Presbyterian church.  Perhaps James hailed from Scotland?

Incidentally, if you search in the IGI for births/christenings to father James Forrest, mother Margaret (unlike Scotland, mother's surnames weren't recorded) it brings up those two baptisms.  Happily, the IGI includes Peggy as a version of Margaret.

Regards,

JAP

[JAP]

Dave,

This looks like the family in 1841?

With Margaret snr and Eleanor b England

Whewfields, St Ninians
FORREST
Margaret H 75, Ind, b England
Eleanor A 45, b England
William H 40, Surgeon, b Stirlingshire
Margret 35, b Stirlingshire
Helen WILLIAMSON 20, Female Servant, b Stirlingshire

JAP

[JAP]

Possible christening for Margaret/Peggy?

Pegey HUTTON, b 24 Sep bap 4 Oct 18761, Benns Garden Or Renshaw Street Presbyterian Or Uniliverp, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, father Wm HUTTON

JAP
PS:  There are a number of children with father William HUTTON in that batch.