Looking for list of public house, Miles Platting 1930ish.

[alisonjar]

Does anyone know if there is a list of public houses and their publicans available for the Miles Platting area of Manchester in 1920/30s.

One of my possible ancestors James Hiscox (who I found on the burial records - thank you everyone) was a publican and his address at death was 466 Oldham Road, Miles Platting, Manchester.

[Barbara.H]

This isn't the answer but it might help -
looking at a map dated 1939 which shows some house numbers, no 466 Oldham Rd, Miles Platting, would be somewhere around the junction of Oldham Rd and Varley St.
After Varley St, the house numbering changes back to 1, 2 etc, as Miles Platting ends and Newton Heath starts!

  Barbara

[Mr. MIGKY]

James Hiscox it not a publican as in he does not run a pub, but is a beer retailer. He is at the address 466 Oldham road. Beer retailer are differant from pub oweners/managers. He is listed as a beer retailer in the 1929 Manchester directory

In 1830 the Beerhouse Act, passed to encourage the sale of beer, brought into being beer retailers who kept beer shops, or beer houses; they could only sell beer and cider (as against public houses which could also sell wine and spirits). Licence for these could be obtained on demand from the local excise office; beer retailers did not have to acquire a licence at the annual Brewster Sessions. The regulations were amended in 1834 and 1840 by which date a property qualification was required for new beer retailers and parish officers had to provide certificates as to the rateable value of the premises. These Beerhouse Acts were repealed in 1869, from which date new beer house licences were isued by the justices. Very few areas have licensing records relating to beer shops before 1872.

Migky

[Mr. MIGKY]

Just a note*

there were two James hiscox on the 1911 but both Salford? Maybe yours?

HISCOX JAMES BORN 1882 AGE 29 Salford
HISCOX JAMES BORN 1884 AGE 27 Salford

[alisonjar]

Wow.  Thank you for the info, that is really interesting.  So would he have sold it out of his home?   I am hoping that this James Hiscox was my great uncle.  James is a common name in the family and there were many of them. 

I have always had a special interest in James Hiscox, my great uncle as he was the eldest brother in the family when both his parents died within a few months of each other in 1899 and he managed to look after and provide for his brothers and sisters including my grandfather Samuel.  The youngest was only 3 years old.

Anyway I witter on.  James married Esther Waterfield but after that I have no idea what happened to him.  He was a coal miner in 1901 and 1911 so the beer retailer may not be him.   Just hoping.

Thank you again for your help.

Ali

[Barbara.H]

From 1903 directories on http://www.historicaldirectories.org

1903 Part 4,  suburban Directory
James Hiscox, collier, 19 Spencer St, Irlams O'th'Height, Swinton

and then in 1903 Part 2, alphabetical directory
James Hiscox, collier, 23 Stapleton St, Irlams O'th'Height, Swinton

These might be the two Migky found in 1911

Also 1909 directory
Mrs Eliz. Ann Hiscox, householder, 12 Denstone Rd, Pendleton

No other Hiscoxes - maybe your James retired from the mines and took to beer selling instead? 


  Barbara

[alisonjar]

Thank you so much for your help.
What a great website.  I havn't even heard of it.  What a find.

ali