Grave Sharing?

[Daisy Loo]

Hi

Someone (Dimps...thanQ) has recently found a grave of one of my ancestors, and happily he is buried there with his wife.  He died in 1878, she died in 1893.  But also buried in the same grave was a person of a totally different name, in 1864.

Could my ancestors have come to some agreement to be buried in this grave?  What other reason would they have fo being buried in a grave of a person that was unrelated to them?

Thanks,

Daisy Loo

[stanmapstone]

There are Purchased Graves where the applicant purchases the Exclusive Right of Burial in this grave, effectively forming a private grave and giving the family of the deceased control of any future burials in that grave. The owner of the Right must give written permission before any burial can take place in a purchased grave. The Exclusive Right has a fixed term - usually 100 years after which time control of the grave is returned to the relevant authority.
Un-purchased Graves are also known as 'Common' or 'Public' graves. The relevant authority retains control of the burials in these graves. Burial Law used to require a 14 year interval between successive burials in one of these graves, (unless the deceased were from the same family), but this law has since been repealed.
1864-1878 = 14years
Stan

[Daisy Loo]

Stan, thanks, makes more sense.  Cheers

[millymcb]

I have found quite a few of mine with different names (mostly in philips Park & Southern in Manchester).   Some of them are large common graves so have lots of different names but some of them have 3 or 4 different names and when I searched further I found lots of relatives such as married daughters and their husbands and their parents or siblings.  Sometimes a wife's father, or even one with maternal grandparents and a grandchild (but not the parents). And once when a mother had remarried.  It is very interesting unravelling it all and can be quite illuminating.

Milly
 

[Daisy Loo]

<groan> not another mystery to unravel!  This family have driven me demented!  Milly, it's the same family that I have on the Armed Forces Board!

But yes, it is strange how things do link up

[Dimps]

As it is possibly a public grave, it is unlikely to have a marker - but I'll tootle along at the weekend to have a look.  The other problem is that many of the gravestones in this particular cemetery have disintigrated and a great many have been moved and have been propped against the walls.

Dimps

[Daisy Loo]

oh no!  Scrimnet suggested that couldbe the case...ah Dimps you're a star...you're getting gold stars on the McMinn thread!

[Gaille]

I have found quite a few of mine with different names (mostly in philips Park & Southern in Manchester).   Some of them are large common graves so have lots of different names but some of them have 3 or 4 different names and when I searched further I found lots of relatives such as married daughters and their husbands and their parents or siblings.  Sometimes a wife's father, or even one with maternal grandparents and a grandchild (but not the parents). And once when a mother had remarried.  It is very interesting unravelling it all and can be quite illuminating.

Milly
 

They may not actually BE in the same grave.
When I fist looked my grandads burial info up at Blackley on the Manchester online I nearly had a fit cos it shows My Grandads name, That my Nanas ashes were scattered on the grave (its officialy recorded!)
and then I got a shock .............. there were two more names listed with the same grave nimber.

I KNOW with absolute certainty that the other people are not buried in this grave - because I was there when My Nana purchased the grave in 1977 and I have been to the grave with her at least 4 times a year since then so I Would KNOW if the grave had been opened for another burial.

When I checked I was told its because there are two parts to the Cemetery (I think its conformist & non Conformist)  - and the numbers may be used in both parts.
I had the same thing happen at Gorton - My relative was in Grave '8' but no plot reference - and each letter plot had a grave number "8" ......................... From "A" onwards.....

It might be worth contacting the Cemetery and asking if its the same there.

Gaille

[Dimps]

Hi Milly,

The man from the Council was quite clear that they are all in the same grave.  Plus he has given a section letter and grave number.

I have come across this before when checking for a fellow rootschatter.  He was adamant that his grandmother could not be in the same grave as another woman but... the other woman did have a marker and the map of the cemetery was very, very detailed - there was no doubt at all.

I'll be able to find out more at the weekend, when I should have a chance to pop along to the cemetery.

Dimps