LUCAS – JERSEY

[Cyclist]

Hello All,

Could somebody please help me, I have been tracing my wife’s family tree and we have found a connection with Jersey.  My wife’s maiden name is LUCAS.

In particular, I am searching for ANDREW O’REGAN LUCAS.  He was born in Wakefield, Yorkshire on 30 June 1940.  His mother was YVONNE MURIEL LUCAS and father SNOWDON PETER LUCAS who once lived at 42 Kensington Place, St Helier. 

I assume that Yvonne Lucas had been evacuated from Jersey during the war as I have found reference to Yvonne Lucas and Andrew Lucas listed amongst evacuees wishing to return to Jersey after the occupation.

I have information on a SNOWDON PETER LUCAS, but I don’t know if he is Andrew Lucas’ father or grandfather.  SNOWDON PETER LUCAS was born 19 October 1903 in St Peters.  He lived at 7 Marina Avenue, St Clements and worked as an autoelectrician.  He died 23 November 1967.

Do you have any information on any of these people, particularly Andrew O’Regan Lucas as he could still be alive and living in Jersey; alternatively if he has died do you know when and where?

Thanks.

[Hill]

Hi

I see there's a will for SPL which can viewed. This might have a lead as to who AOL was. I'll have a look in the next day or two. (it's not on-line).

There is an Andrew Lucas in the Jersey telephone directory.

Stewart

[Cyclist]

Thanks for your message.

C

[Hill]

Hi

I've now managed to have a look at SPL's will. Unfortunately it doesn't make it any clearer.

Under Jersey law, you had to leave a third of your estate to you wife, a third to your children and the remaining third could be left as you like. It makes mention that two thirds would be left to his child or children (no mention of his wife) and the remaining third to his daughter Josephine Lucas. The will is dated 18th Feb 1964 and he was living at 7 Marina Avenue.

Also living at 7 Marina Avenue at the same time during the occupation as SPL was a Hazel Amelia Hill.

I'm not sure whether any of that will help you.

Stewart

[Cyclist]

Thanks very much indeed for the time you have spent looking into this - it is much appreciated.  So far, the more information I get, the more confusing the picture looks.

Is the position in Jersey the same as in England - ie you can go to your local council offices or library to have a look through electoral registers, and are any of these on-line?

Thanks for your help.

C

[Hill]

The second question is easy to answer - no are there are no electoral registers on-line.

However their availability is another thing! Each Parish maintains their own Register. Some have lodged them with the Archive Centre, some have not. Even those that have lodged them, they won't be current ones, they could be quite old.

The nearest equivalent is the Rating List, but this will only show the owner and not the residents of a property.

There is another source of finding out who lives in a property and that is the local Almanac although this is only relevant up until about 1980.

Finally there is an in-house system at the Archive Centre called PRIDE which records property transactions and I suppose is similar to the Land Registry in the UK.


Have you got YML/SPL's marriage certificate? That would show how old SPL was and therefore tell you whether the SPL born 1903 was the father or grandfather.

Let me know if I can help.

Stewart

[Cyclist]

Thanks Stewart.

I have been looking at this from different angles, but haven't made any progress.

My understanding is that ANDREW O'REGAN LUCAS was living in Jersey, but he is not listed on any of the current parish electoral registers.  Somebody mentioned to me that he may have been living in Jersey, but that he died sometime in the past 10 years.  Are the death registers for Jersey available on-line, if not, how would I go about checking the death register - is this held centrally or by each parish?

With regard to SPL - I can't find him on the 1911 census for Jersey (or anywhere else in the UK).

I don't have YML/SPL's marriage certificate either - again, how are marriages recorded in Jersey; is it centrally or by parish?

Kind Regards.

[Hill]

Hi again

I'm afraid there is no clear answer to your question regarding record availability. If you work from what is online it's a starting pojnt. Only the census are available on line. Nothing else is! However you can look at the index to the Jersey Archive Centre but this doesn't reflect everything they have, only what's currently indexed. Have a look at:

http://jerseyheritagetrust.jeron.je/archive.html

BMD's have been indexed by the CIFHS, but these are paper records and each Parish has its own index. They do not included the current register so some Parish's index could only go up to the 1970's whilst (St Helier for instance) others could up to the early 2000's. Certificates are to be found at the Parish Church or more likely the Register Office. You can view the certificates without charge although copies cost £20(!!).

I have searched the deaths in St Helier from 2003 back to 1946 and cannot see a death for AOL. However I did see a death for a Matthew O'Regan Lucas - volume 92, Jan 2001 to April 2003, page 29 - which may prove useful at some time.

I have found the marriage for SPL. This is in St Helier Registry Office, Dec 1930 to May 1933, page 30. There is a Yvonne Murial Bennett on the same page.

One small step forward.

Stewart