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N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« on: Wednesday 04 March 09 18:29 GMT (UK) »
    There is feven ports or gates in Newcafle, befide Pofterne Gates, which belonged to the religious houfes. In the lower part of the towne upon the river is many little gates to that famous long Key.
    1. Weft is Clofe-Gate, called fo from a ftreet called the Clofe, which goeth up the water, to a place of recreation, called the Forth, given to the towne for good fervices performed by the burgeffes of the fame.
    In Edward the 3. reigne, three hundred valient men iffued out of the towne, through a Pofterne Gate, came fuddenly in the night upon a great army of the Scots, which lay in that part weft of the towne; rayfed the army of the Scots, put them to flight, and took Earle Morray prifoner in his tent, and others.
    2. The next is Weft-Gate, a ftately and faire gate, builded by Roger de Thornton, a rich man that lived in Hen. the 6 days, the high way west into Northumberland and Cumberland.
    3. Is New-Gate, the ancient and ftrongest of all the ports, having a caufey that leadeth to the Towne-Moore, and towards the north parts of Northumberland and Scotland. Now a prison for debtors and felons. [This Newgat, called so becaufe K. John builded that Gate, as Newcafle is called from Wm. Conquerors . . . who built this Caftle. Their is an outward gate on the North, builded by Ed. 3. or fucceffors, as appears by the armes, w. ch. he atchieved in his conquefts with the many flower de lucies in the frontspiece of them; and the B. of Durhams arms and towns armes.}
    4. Pilgrim-Street-Gate; so called becaufe of the Pilgrims lodging in that ftreet; and went out of that gate to the fhrine of the Virgin Mary in Gesmond; to which place, with great confluence and devotion, people came from all parts of this land, in that time of fuperftition.
    5. Pandon-Gate, so called from the ancient towne of Pampeden, where was the Picts wall, and a Roman tower, lately decayed; out of which wall is a caufey that goeth into a place of recreation and perambulation, called the Shields-Field; and a way to a village called the Walls-End; by Beda, Villa ad Murum, and fo into Tinmouth-fhire.
    6. East of the towne is Sand-Gate, built upon the river fide. Without this gate is many houfes, and populous, all along the water fide; where fhip-wrights, fea-men, and keel-men most live, that are imployed about fhips and keels.

There is a whole chapter on Pampedon, which I had never heard of before - perhaps another day!
Liz
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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Liz you're a star it must have taken you an age to type that lot. But it makes for great reading. I can picture all these place's as I travel in and out of Newcastle.

Gary
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Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Gary, thanks. I'm not a very good typist, but it's worth it if people enjoy it.

Have you heard of Pampeden?

Liz
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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Liz
there was a place called Pandon,so maybe thats it's older name

Steve
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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Liz
A bit more info on Pamperdon would be handy. I have an inkling, but history is bound to prove me wrong.

Keep up the good work.  ;D

Gary
Preshous: Yorkshire/Durham
Penwrights: Bedfordshire/Tasmania
Blake: Sunderland
Stace: Sussex/Sunderland
Murray: Cumberland
Sanderson: Berwickshire/Durham
Burnside: Darlington

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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Liz:

I am enjoying your excerpts from "N'cassel's Aald Waals" so much.   Although Newcastle born and bred, I have never heard of Pamperdon or Pandon and would love to learn more, so please continue with your extracts to keep us all entertained.

Many thanks for your good work.

Hazel.

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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 23:07 GMT (UK) »
The Pandon name certainly existed until a few years ago - maybe still does.  Newcastle Poly had a place called Pandon Building - over on the Byker side.

Just google Pampeden - loads of stuff comes up!

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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Christine.  I'll do that right away.

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Re: N'cassel's Aald Waals - part 2
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 March 09 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Certainly there are both names, Pandon and Pampeden given in No 5 in the excerpt above, and also Pantheon in my book - which says it has kept its name since Roman times.
On the Google site, I found that John de Byker granted land to the Carmelites in Pampedon, and it was in the manor of Byker.
I found Pandon Bank just by Manors railway Station, and Pandon, running east from the top of Cowgate.
In my book, it talks about there being an ancient religious house called the 'Mannours' and a 'Burne' runs through the middle of Pandon called the 'Pandon-Burne' - on Google I see it is crossed by Barras Bridge and runs into the Tyne about  quarter of a mile from the Tyne Bridge.
So the Pandon Burn must run into the Tyne west of the Ouse Burn.

What a lot I didn't know about my home town. I have a feeling this is just a beginning. I'm really glad I lashed out £10 on my book. I NEVER pay that for a 2nd hand book!


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CALVIN, DEMPSEY, LYNN.     Antrim
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