Lookup on 1841 and 1861 wiltshire census

[kenelms]

I am researching ELMS [Elmes or Helmes] born at Lacock [could be spelt Laycock or even Lacocke area . I am looking for Robert Elms married to Sarah Sadd b abt 1820. The 1851 census I have shows  HELMES  [AGE unsure as it looks 41 on 1851]. Robert could appear on Thingley [Corsham] or Chippenham. Any information  on 1841 0r 1861 welcomed. Indeed, any information on these others welcomed--James Elms b abt 1775.

[bearkin]

Hi Kenelms,

I have the 1841 census for Corsham and Chippenham. If you are still looking I will have a look for you next week when I am back in the office.

Pete

[kenelms]

Hello Peter,
Thankyou for replying. Yes please for your kind offer for Corsham and Chippenham area. My understanding from the 1851 census was Robert Elm[e]s would be married to Sarah[Sadd] and they showed up on Thingley census place on Corsham. Both born at Lacock [could be spelt Laycock on 1841 census]. Also, on the 1851 census the name was written has Helmes. But Elm[e]s and Elms Lacock born are of much interest in I my quest to find Robert's parents born at Lacock. James Elms is my best trace on limited information.So any information is most welcome. Many thanks.

Ken 

[bearkin]

Hi,
I have had a look at the Thingley folio of Corsham and found the following:

HO107/1171/13 p.5
George Helms 27 Labourer
Hester Helms 20
Eliza 2 months

in a place called Sandhills. Note: the 41 does not give birth place only if the same county. All were from Wiltshire.

I also found a George Elms 15 Labourer living with Ben Harris and Ann Harris in Coppershill (p. 17), just up the road.

I found no Robert unfortunately.

I also did Folio 1171/12 but nothing there; this mostly relates to the town. I did not look at 14 which is also the town.

All the best,

pete

[kenelms]

Once again my thanks for your prompt reply. I am still searching. Does the Chippenham 1841 census contain Lacock or villages closeby like Nooton, Reybridge and Bowden Hill?

I realise the census place names are not the villages being searched--like Lacock[Laycock]. I know there was other Elms[Elmes] who lived in and around Lacock  by 1851.

[bearkin]

I will look for these villages tomorrow. In the folios I looked at Lacock was mentioned in the enumerators descriptions, particularly the one containing the Thingley records. It is quite hard to follow as there is no village index. You have to go through page by page.

I will let you know what I find tomorrow.

Pete

[bearkin]

I looked through all of Corsham and Chippenham and I found Boyden Hill, which I guess is Bowden Hill, in the Lacock area, but none of the other places you mentioned. Had already checked Boyden Hill, so no other Elms to add.

Sorry.

Pete

[kenelms]

Thanks again Peter for your time and interest in my searches. In an earlier reply relating to Thingley Corsham you said you had not looked at the town itself,did you mean Thingley or Corsham [which would be a big task]. Also, it appears the data you have is not indexed or transcribed into easily searchable surnames with variants. Do you know if 1841 Wiltshire census is an ongoing activity with more information coming to hand from transcribers. But I am most grateful for your help and patient search. Should information on Elms,Elmes, Helmes or Helms come to hand then please send it. Many thanks---Ken

[bearkin]

Hi Ken,

I looked at in detail Thingley, and all hamlets and villages in the immediate area. I did not look at Corsham other than to check if any of the villages you mentioned were in the same folio. I also checked Chippenham folios to see if I could find any of the villages mentioned. I do not know if anyone is transcribing this census yet.

Pete