Nelsons!!! I am stuck

[Valigene]

My great great grandma was Louisa Nelson 1838, her mother was Caroline Allen 1814-1862.
Her father was Robert Nelson 1815 his death could be 1856 as the family lived in swannington and I have found this record but not yet confirmed.
I cannot find any parents for Robert. I am stuck.
Any help would be much appreciated--I would love to find if we have a link to  Admiral Horatio.
Thanks Val

[wendy47]

 Hi

On Freereg there is a baptism in 1821 at Swannington but it is probably too late and it won't help as there is no father given. Do you know if he was born in Swannington?

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1001244

Robert and Carolina's marriage

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=305210

Carolina's baptism

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=1001165

Wendy 

[wendy47]

Hi

I think this maybe Carolina's parents marriage on IGI looking at the witness on Carolina's baptism record below.


THOMAS ALLEN & Judith STANNER    02 AUG 1808     Longham, Norfolk, England


I have checked 1851 & 1861 censuses and see that Robert was b in Swannington, also Caroline is a widow in 1861 so your death for Robert seems likely.

Wendy 

[Valigene]

Thank you so much for that, the Allen I am sorted with have gone back two more generations.So his mothers surname was Nelson, was he illegitimate? I will start searching Frances Nelson and see what I can find. Any further help would be greatly appreciated.
Val

[wendy47]

Hi Val

I wouldn't take Frances for Robert's mother as certain.

Parish records for Swannington may throw up another Robert. I don't think all PRs or Bishops Transcripts are on Freereg.

http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/s/swannington/  will give you some idea of different records available

http://www.curiousfox.com/uk/r.lasso?vid=53462&-nothing - Allen family to 1600


Norfolk Record Office Norwich has a list of holdings http://www.a2a.org.uk/about/contributors/153-list.asp
including Parish Records of Swannington [1540-1970] - ref. PD 44

http://www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk/documents/pdf/prat.pdf give a list of dates for Swannington

Wendy 

[Valigene]

I have joined the Norfolk FHS and they have a look up service. So I can say that Robert Nelson was born 27.05.1821 his mum was definately Francis Nelson.
Researcher spelt it with I although Frances is usually with E in female.
So I am assuming mum was probably in her teens when she had Robert so she would be born 1800-1806 ish.
I can only find 1 Frances but she was born in Yarmouth 1796, that would make her 25 when Robert was born,any help would be appreciated.
Val

[wendy47]

Hi

I presume you have Robert in the 1841 Census.

HO107 Piece 770  All Saints Tilney  Folio 8 Page 12

I'm probably clutching at straws!!!

I note there is a Frances b 1795 Great Withcingham on Freereg. This is a few miles from Swannington.
Also a marriage of Israel Newham and Frances Nelson. If by any chance this turns out to be her I have the following census.

1861 census for Hackford by Reepham [just North of Swannington]
Israel Newham     66
Frances Newham    66 b Witchingham
RG9 Piece 1204 Folio 96 Page 12

 If you belong to the Norfolk FHS, You should be able to find out more. It is something to look into anyway.

Wendy

[Valigene]

Thank you so much. This bit has been bugging me for ages. I am slowly making a bit of headway.
Val

[peterlee]

Hi Val

Frances was the daughter of Henry and Elizabeth Nelson nee Thrower

Individual Summary - 8 Jul 2015
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Name:   Frances Nelson
Sex:   Female
Father:   Henry Nelson (b 1764)
Mother:   Elizabeth Thrower (b 1777)

Individual Facts
Birth   10 Apr 1795 in Hockering Norfolk
Baptism   19 Apr 1795 in Great Witchingham Norfolk
Residence   The Workhouse Great Witchingham (13 Oct 1808)
Census   1841 in Harveys Yard Hackford Norfolk
Census   1851 in Hackford by Reepham Norfolk
Census   1861 in Harveys Yard Hackford Norfolk
Census   1871 in Market Place Hackford Norfolk
Death   1881 in Aylsham Norfolk
Burial   24 Feb 1881 in Hackford  by Reepham Norfolk

Marriages/Children
1. Israel Newham
Marriage   6 Nov 1825 in Reepham Norfolk
Children   Clement Newham (b 1826)
   William Newham (b 1830)
   Hannah Newham (b 1834)

2. [UNKNOWN SPOUSE]
Children   Robert Nelson (b 1815)

regards...Peter