Wow Edward!!!! Many thanks for your post! I've hit the jackpot! It has to be one and the same family. Coincidentally I've been in touch with Josephine, who as you say, is living in England, I got her address from an old census on-line and it fit in with what another family member had told me. The census information, relatively recent, had that Patricia was also living at the same address as Josephine but when I made contact, Josephine didn't mention Patricia so my guess is she died. In fact Josephine has absolutely no real information to pass on to me. She didn't mention any siblings, she thought her grandmother Charlotte (my grandfather's sister) came from N Ireland (not!!). She confirmed that Johnjoe had died in 1981 and Charlotte in the 1940s. Reading between the lines, from what I've heard from my father, it was quite a scandal in the family that Charlotte had gone off and married this Catholic lad from Co. Galway, I think she and the family had very little further contact. If you can think of any other information regarding this line of the Hopkins family I would be fascinated to hear it, why did they go to England for example? I might just wing off another letter to cousin Josephine and ask some more questions. Thanks for you help anyway, I was so excited to see the email in my in box this morning!!!!!!!