Thanks again.
Everyone is fitting together nicely

The adopted son Albert Spencer is interesting, I hadn't got that far. John & Alfred's brother is in Otley in 1901 with wife Mary and family. I haven't looked to see if anyone else is with them or near them - so another job to add to the list.
John and Hannah are indexed as Paine in the 1881 - an obvious misspelling I should had checked sooner, but I found it by searching first names.
(The 81 census is the only one I don't have images for to say whether it is miswritten, badly written, poor quality or mis transcribed by the LDS, whichever way there are a lot of errors apart from the surname in it.

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John at Marton Street I had finally sorted once I found he had changed his job, lost his first wife, married again another wife of the same name and raised a whole new family.