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Baptism for Hannah Cooper please *COMPLETED*
« on: Thursday 02 April 09 04:28 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Am trying to find family of Hannah Cooper as well as a baptism for her.  The only information I have is that she was 32 on the 1851 England Census and b. LongSutton Lincolnshire.  Not 100% sure but I think her father was John Cooper  :-\.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Deb
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France

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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 April 09 11:09 BST (UK) »
Do you mean this one on 1851? now married?

HO107 1766 29 15
Shire Drain Bank, Tydd St Giles

John Cooper 67 Married Farmer 40 acres bn Rutland Ashwell
Hannah Hopkin dtr Married 32 bn Long Sutton Lincs
Mary Hopkin grandchild 7 bn Tydd St Giles
Benjamin Hopkin 5 grandchild bn TSG

plus a servant


Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 April 09 11:25 BST (UK) »
Marraige
Jul/Aug/Sep 1840
Wisbech 14 199
Hannah Cooper / Joseph Hopkins

1841
HO107 78 8
Potton End, Newton, Cambs
Joseph Hopkins 25 farmer bn in county
Hannah 20 not bn in cy
Joseph 1mth bn in co

also 1841
Tydd St Giles
John Cooper 55 farmer
MAry 55
Keturah? 15

Marriage
Ap/May/Jun 1842
Wisbech 14 232
Keturah Cooper
to either Charles Collyer, George Hollingsworth, Thomas Hook or Joseph Roughton
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 April 09 12:45 BST (UK) »

Marriage
Ap/May/Jun 1842
Wisbech 14 232
Keturah Cooper
to either Charles Collyer, George Hollingsworth, Thomas Hook or Joseph Roughton See the IGI
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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 April 09 22:10 BST (UK) »
Do you mean this one on 1851? now married?

HO107 1766 29 15
Shire Drain Bank, Tydd St Giles

John Cooper 67 Married Farmer 40 acres bn Rutland Ashwell
Hannah Hopkin dtr Married 32 bn Long Sutton Lincs
Mary Hopkin grandchild 7 bn Tydd St Giles
Benjamin Hopkin 5 grandchild bn TSG


plus a servant





Hi lizdb

Yes, this is the one where I found Hannah, she had married Joseph Hopkins. But I can't seem to find a baptism for her or a marriage for her parents.  On this 1851 Census it has her place of origin as Long Sutton Lincs but I can't find her or any siblings on the IGI.  Thanks for your help with this much appreciated :)

Deb
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France

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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 April 09 19:35 BST (UK) »
I have fiches of transcripts of the Tydd St Giles registers and had a look at them today.  There were several HOPKIN(S) baptisms there in the 1840s but no kids of Joseph and Hannah, so perhaps they were RC or "chapel".
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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 09 22:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking on the fiches GeoffE but Hopkins was her married name.  I'm looking for a Hannah COOPER born about 1820/21??.  On lizdb's first post it has Hannah with a John Cooper on the 1851 Census so I'm assuming that John was her father.  Having real problems finding a baptism for her and a marriage for her parents.

:) Deb
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France

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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 April 09 10:56 BST (UK) »
First rule of Family History - NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING!

Would be worth getting the marriage cert to see who Hannah names as her father. If John, a farmer, then we are on the right lines.

Certainly it looks like he is he Dad from all the evidence so far.

Second rule - take it one step at a time!

Find out all you can about one person before leaping back to the next, or you may find you are leaping in the wrong direction!
That is why Geof was looking for Hannah and Joseph's children after they settled in Tydd St Giles. And as he said, no christening might (or might not) indicate that the family were Catholic or non conformist .... which might also be true of the Coopers, who knows!

Although Hannah says born Long Sutton, she could have been christened anywhere, so it will be hard to find without knowing a bit more about the family anyway.
There seems to be a possible sister Keturah, who may ne easier to trace. We know she married Collyer. Perhaps we can find her on later censuses to see where she was born - that might give a clue as to whether John was in Long Sutton for any length of time.

All sorts of possible scenarios, but lots of work needed to work methodically through the families movements, if we can.

Hannah gives Long Sutton as p o b on 1851 - do you have her on later censuses?  Where does she say then?



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Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
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Re: Baptism for Hannah Cooper please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 April 09 11:10 BST (UK) »
Have just been looking at Keturah, to see if she gives us any moreclues about the family

We have her in 1842 censuse
hen she married Charles Collyer in 1842
Cant see her in 1851
She seems to remarry to John Cliff Trumble in 1858, in London, (ref 1c 160)
In 1861 she and John are in Leeds - John comes from Leeds, at RG9 3394 71 3
Keturah then gives her place of birth as Lincolnshire Sutton St Mary, age 35.

So it does look as if the Coopers were in that "Sutton" area of Lincolnshire for a bit, rather than just Hannah being born there.





Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk