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Mary Jane Williams Death date - TreharrisCOMPLETED
« on: Thursday 02 April 09 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi there,  I am looking for the death certificate for my great grandmother who died in 1984 (but could be 1983) just days before her 100th birthday in Merthyr hospital.  No one in my family can be sure exactly when.

I thought it would be easy to find seeing as she was nearly 100 but no luck.  She was born as Mary jane Thomas in Treharris and lived in Webster Street and married William Francis about 1902.

She married again to a David Williams after her first husband died from mustard gas poisoning sometime after WW1.

So I have three surnames to go on but am totally stuck on her date of death which would give me a clue to her date of birth.

Can anyone help.  Many thanks. :)

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Re: Mary Jane Williams Death date - Treharris
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 April 09 23:06 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

There is this death entry for 1984

Mary Jane Williams born 12 Feb 1886 age 98 at death
Death registered  Oct 1984   Pontypridd  Glamorgan 
Volume 27  Page 1144 

I have checked the full GRO index for 1983 and there is no Mary Jane Williams death any older than the one above
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Re: Mary Jane Williams Death date - Treharris
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 April 09 10:03 BST (UK) »
Hi CaroleW

Thanks for looking through the death index's for me so promptly.  I cant tell how many times I have gone over them and what you found for me confirms that there is no exact match for the details I have. 

Maybe somewhere along the way age of death has got confused or she was registered at death under a different christian name! 

So now I will stop looking for a Mary Jane and maybe invesigate other names she may have used. 

It was very helpful to know that it wasn't just me not being able to find anything - it was driving me round the bend because I actually knew my great grandmother - so I know she existed and died at that time!

I might try a post on the general message board to see if anyone knows the family.

Many thanks once again for your efforts.

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Re: Mary Jane Williams Death date - Treharris
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 April 09 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

Whoever reported her death may have got her birthyear wrong but I doubt they would have got her christian names wrong

Have you thought about buying a copy of that 98yr olds death cert to see if the details on it tie in with what you know about her?

I know it may be £7 down the drain if it's the wrong one - but if it's the right one - mystery solved
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Re: Mary Jane Williams Death date - Treharris
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 April 09 13:02 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think I will probably have to do that but the only thing is, that I was told she died days before her 100th birthday so I was going on the fact that her death month would be the same as her birth month with 100 years in between unless it was the beginning or the end of the month.  With the christian name - my uncle who stayed with her during the war said that people called her Marie - and I have tried that name also, but I was going on the name on her birth certificate being Mary Jane.

Oh well, I will keep on grilling my relatives - someone must know the date!

Thanks for your interest.