Ludd Palestine 4 may 1922

[obbie]

can anybody tell me if british troops were killed in ludd in palestine on 4 may 1922 ?
ive just found my gr gr uncles grave in glasnevin dublin .
albert brock born 11 october 1885 limerick ireland . died 4 may 1922 ludd palestine .
his father was in royal artillery for 25 years i assume albert followed in his footsteps .
ive had a look at CWGC site , cant find anything .
ive no more info on albert , his mam and dad were john and anne brock .
they lived most of there lives in limerick and retired to dublin .
any help or suggestions would be great .      thanks very much .

[km1971]

CWGC does not record deaths between 1922 and 1938 inclusive. Someone with a Findmypast account could check the overseas/regimental BMD for his death. Or your local FH/records office may have access to a free online newspaper archives for his death or obituary.

As he was serving after 1920 the MOD will have his service papers. They normally require regiment and number but I believe they will accept date of birth if you do not have the latter. You could guess at RA, but you will be risking £30 as they not not make refunds. So it would be last resort. As he died in service you do not have to supply a death certificate.

http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

Ken

[mmm45]

Theres an Albert Brocks Medal Index Card with Royal Munster Fusiliers and then Royal Flying Corps..He has a Dublin address could this be him?


Ady

[obbie]

thanks guys .
 this is definitely him . theres only two albert brocks in ireland at this time .
albert 11 october 1885 limerick . when family moved to dublin another albert a nephew in 1908 .
any suggestions on getting more info other than ordering his records ?
can i use any of the info on cards to get anywhere ?
any idea how long it takes to get his records after i order them ?

thanks very much again

[mmm45]

Its probably 26 Cabra Rd Phibsboro??

With him been RFC he may have an RAF record as they merged 1918.If and he probably has his record will be with MOD archive so id send the SAR form off requesting it with the medal index card infoTell them you suspect post war service they should hopefully have it..could be up to 6 wks wait though.
RAF records are in AIR files at the NA.Couldnt see him on Ancestrys Aero Club files so he may not have been a pilot.

Ady

[km1971]

There is an Albert Brock living in Antrim on the 1911 Census. A grocer's assistant, born Limerick. Age is a few years off though.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Ken

[obbie]

hi , have found out that albert died and was buried at sea on way to palestine on palestine police roll , is there any way id get a death cert for cause of death ? any other thoughts appr . ive asked a researcher to get his ww1 records from kew for me , patience is a virtue i dont have !

[corisande]

Did you ever get anywhere with him

I am just starting to research him with stuff I am doing on the Auxiliaries and the Palestine Police

So I would be interested to see if you have made any new finds about him

Cause of death was  " acute pertonitis 4/5/1922 "

[obbie]

hi , have found out that albert died and was buried at sea on way to palestine on palestine police roll , is there any way id get a death cert for cause of death ? any other thoughts appr . ive asked a researcher to get his ww1 records from kew for me , patience is a virtue i dont have !

this is now proven untrue and record has been changed
http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Colonial/Palestine/PPOCA_Roll.htm
all entrys in blue are updated info

his ww1 army record dosent exist his RAF record does im awaiting info .

ive cut and pasted below from brock family tree

was in WW1 Royal Munster Fusilliers 2nd lieut . Joined RFC Royal Flying Corps his address was 26 Cabra rd phibsboro north circular rd
He joined Auxiliary division of the RIC as constable on 7th march 1921 being assigned force no. 1807 .
when disbanded in 1921 he joined palestine Gendarmarie force 28 march 1922
and died from a severe and sudden operation for acute pertonitis 4 may 1922 at 3pm in ludd palestine now lod . Grave beside Ben Gurion airport in israel he was buried at 8am the following morning
Buried Albert Brock Ramleh war cemetery in Israel 4 5 1922 age 33 ? age is off .

i have photo of his grave supplied by a researcher who gave me many of the above details who im extremely grateful to .