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From Keady to Hamilton.
« on: Monday 06 April 09 09:25 BST (UK) »
Robert Graham, b. Keady, Co. Armagh, was a tailor. He m. Jane  ?  and emigrated to Hamilton, Canada in 1833. Robert died of Typhus fever at Hamilton on 13 August, 1847 and was laid to rest in the Methodist graveyard, Hamilton, Canada. He left a wife and eleven children, one of whom was William. Robert's brother Stuart was to come out later with financial aid.

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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:28 BST (UK) »
You've asked no questions...? If you do want us to find something for you, it will be tough without a surname for Jane, but we might still find something... Who were the children born before emigration? Were most of the children born in Canada? In which cemetery was he known to be buried in? http://www.wightman.ca/~dkaufman/
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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 April 09 17:35 BST (UK) »
You've asked no questions...? If you do want us to find something for you, it will be tough without a surname for Jane, but we might still find something... Who were the children born before emigration? Were most of the children born in Canada? In which cemetery was he known to be buried in? http://www.wightman.ca/~dkaufman/
Dear J.J.,
Thank you for the quick response to my post and sorry for being so vague. Unfortunately I had very little to go on and was hoping might relate to what I had written. I suppose in the 1800s-1900s the graveyard in Hamilton was better known. I have some letters written from Hamilton which includes the following account of the outward sea journey.
The ship left Belfast on 12th. April 1833, arriving on 2nd. June, same year, a journey of seven weeks and three days. There was rough weather for five weeks during which time they had not five days of fair wind and suffered a great deal of hardship. The first land that opened to them was on the 42nd. day. They came to quarentine on the 49th. day, on an Island on the St. Lawrence, 30 miles up the river from Quebec. After two days in quarantine they landed in Quebec. There are a few notes on provisions, etc., then mentions going to Montreal and from there to Hamilton, calling at Little Rock. Obviously the question I would like answered is. Are the descendants of Robert and his wife, Jane alive today ? I have no notes on where the children were born.

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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 April 09 19:32 BST (UK) »
I imagine if they gave such a tight account of the journey, there would have been mention of children...but one never knows...That's a great letter to have, but not personal enough unfortunately...
The earliest census available online is http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/ Unfortunately many are lost...
The only Jane in there that might work has older children so most would have had to have been born in Ireland to be the right one...unless she gave the little ones up for adoption...which could have happened if she gave birth every year after they moved here & they were all young ones......
The 1861 will become available for Hamilton, but not for some time...http://ontariocensus.rootsweb.ancestry.com/search-census.html

In 1871, none of the ages for the Jane Graham liste jive unless she was a little older mom or quite a very young  one...http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/1871-ontario/001016-100.01-e.php
Unfortunately these are heads of household, or those in households with different surnames...

Also she may have remarried ....or have been in the household of a son or daughter...

When was Wlliam mentioned?
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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 11:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you, J.J. for all those sources. There is plenty for me to look into.
I will also try and establish if any children were born before they set sail.

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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi newgent,

Sounds like they are talking about Grosse Ile in the letter which was the quaratine Island on the St. Lawrence.  It opened in 1832.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/grosse-ile/021023-3000-e.html

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 18:25 BST (UK) »
The Robert Graham who married Jessie Haw...was he from Hamilton? Wondering if he was a son...
Wondering if I can find that ship's list...but with my luck they came without children...
Too bad they just missed the fully transcribed Que. entry by one year...
Nevermind...
Just saw they were having children in 1890's so probably not young enough to be offspring, although may be family
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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 19:22 BST (UK) »
There is the following marriage registration  :-\

Elizabeth Graham
AGe:  26
Parents:  Robert Graham & Jane Graham
Birthplace:  Hamilton, Ontario
Residence when married:  Brantford, Ontario

Albert M. Plant
Age:  32
Residence when married:  Chicago, Ill
Birthplace:  Onadaga County, New York
Occupation:  Cattle Dealer
Parents:  Al??? & Elizabeth Plant

Religion of groom:  Epis. Methodist
Religion of bride:  Wes. Methodist

Date of Marriage:  March 16, 1871, Brantford, Ontario

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: From Keady to Hamilton.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 20:13 BST (UK) »
EEk I can't find this Albert...but this may be the wife Eliz. will post in case she is yours...
1871 http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/1871-ontario/001016-119.01-e.php?&sisn_id_nbr=303326
No sign of either in 1881...or 1891 that I can see...and in 1901 only this one but not a likely fit with all the other missing information
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=46814&highlight=31

Perhaps they might also have moved to U.S...but a cold trail in Canada on that one, darn...
 Alanson Plant is a valid name, N.Y. farmer ( Betsy Hiscock)...as found another child of his
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