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*COMPLETED - THANK YOU* Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« on: Wednesday 08 April 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me with the following death certificate for Joseph Danby please? I am attaching a scan of the certificate.........



The info I have managed translate so far is as follows:

- Died 6th April 1871 at Portrack Lane, Stockton
- Age 47 years
- Occupation; Inn Keeper (but crossed out above it is 'Iron' with a number 2 above it - outside
  to the left of all the colums is an annotation which looks something like 'two wvs' or maybe 'two
  wks'?)
- Cause of death Typhoid Fever, Certified
- Signature. description and residence of informant: Hannah Gibbon. present at the death, 47
  Webster Street, Stockton
- Registered 7th April 1871.

This is definitely the Joseph Danby in the 1871 census as Portrack Lane is where his Inn was in the census. Not sure who Hannah is, certainly not one of the family or the domestic servant listed in the 1871 census - Piece: 4902/Folio: 94/ Page 16/GSU Roll: 848010

I'm curious as to what the annotation just outside of the columns could mean? Any suggestions please?   ???

Many thanks.

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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 14:35 BST (UK) »
Hi:

When I've had a time period on a death certificate it usually relates to the length of the terminal illness, although it's usually in the cause of death column.  In this case it looks as if the registrar forgot to leave space to add it in the cause of death and, as an afterthought, just wrote it where there was room.

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Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford/Lymington, Calne): Moore/Rudland (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley): Hayter (Whiteparish)

O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)

Gore (Newbury, Wigan): Hawkins (Gt Bedwyn/Hungerford): Massey/Wallis (Shalbourne): Mildenhall (Ogbourne): Smith/Lilley (Nhants): Wernham (Chieveley): Woosnam (Mont./Salop): Yaldwyn (Blackdown)

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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 14:36 BST (UK) »
Sorry, meant to say that I think it reads  "two weeks"!
Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford/Lymington, Calne): Moore/Rudland (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley): Hayter (Whiteparish)

O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)

Gore (Newbury, Wigan): Hawkins (Gt Bedwyn/Hungerford): Massey/Wallis (Shalbourne): Mildenhall (Ogbourne): Smith/Lilley (Nhants): Wernham (Chieveley): Woosnam (Mont./Salop): Yaldwyn (Blackdown)

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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 14:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks Old Mother Reilly.

Any thoughts on why 'Iron' is crossed out and the small number 2 transcribed above it?


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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 15:10 BST (UK) »
Jeffery, ummm, I would hazard a guess (note, a "guess" only) that it is an error code.  I think that, if a registrar had to amend a certificate, there had to be a reason why, and I think there was a list of common "reasons why" which all had numbers.

I would suggest asking on the FH child board "Deciphering Help" for a more explicit answer.  There is probably someone on there who knows exactly what it means  :) !

Rachel
Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford/Lymington, Calne): Moore/Rudland (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley): Hayter (Whiteparish)

O'Reilly (Sheffield, Flint, L'pool, Co. Longford): Foxton (Sheffield, Northallerton, Thirsk): Spragg (St. Teath, Delabole, Pengelly): Stabb (Berry Pomeroy)

Gore (Newbury, Wigan): Hawkins (Gt Bedwyn/Hungerford): Massey/Wallis (Shalbourne): Mildenhall (Ogbourne): Smith/Lilley (Nhants): Wernham (Chieveley): Woosnam (Mont./Salop): Yaldwyn (Blackdown)

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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 15:16 BST (UK) »
It looks to me like Iron was written instead of Inn and Iron was crossed out with 2 written about it. The comment in the left margin is "two" (instead of "2") with the initials of whoever made the correction. If it was a reference to length of illness it would have been under cause of death.
Will move this to deciphering help for you now.
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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think the "2" above the crossed though Iron means that it is a correction made by the Registrar and that it is the second correction in the book.  A note is then made in the margin and initialled by the Registrar.


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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 16:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone for your feedback.....sorry I put my posting in the wrong place.  :-[

Having a real run around with this one - it appears there was only one Joseph Danby in Stockton, but 2 women married to Joseph Danby!

My ancestor Sarah Dawson married Joseph in 1864 in Stockton and was widowed by the 1881 census. The other Eleanor or Helena can be found with Joseph in the 1871 census (refs given earlier) but died a few years after him.........all very intruiging!

By the way, the registrar was a R S Pearson.

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Re: Help Deciphering Death Certificate Please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 23:46 BST (UK) »
I agree - the annotation refers to the correction in the occupation column.  The person who wrote out the certificate may not have been the registrar and was probably the clerk, thus the different initials.