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info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« on: Saturday 11 April 09 22:46 BST (UK) »
This is my first post so i hope itīs in the right place!
I am looking for info about one of my ancestors, his name was Shiel Ronald Barry (his fatherīs name was Andrew Shiel Barry and motherīs name was Rachel Harriet Pocock). He was born in Lambeth London in 1880, became an actor like his father, married the actress Dorothy Minto in 1907 in London. He died in France in October 1916 in the Battle of the Somme.

On the 1911 census I see they had a child but no name is given though the child was still alive though apparantly not at home on the night the census was taken. I can find nothing of Dorothy Minto after 1936 when she made her last film.

I would be grateful for any info, I live abroad and have to rely on the internet for my research. 

Thank you in advance. 

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Re: info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 April 09 23:05 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you just confirm that there is a 1 in both columns 7 and 8 of the 1911 image 

Where were they living in 1911
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Re: info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 April 09 23:06 BST (UK) »
For Dorothy Minto, have a look at

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0591717/
http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?LinkID=mp51346

There is an obituary in the New York Times on March 14, 1897, for the British actor Shiel Barry who had died in London the previous day, presumably this was the father whose first appearance on the London stage was in 1870.

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FLOOD - Exeter, Middlesex.  DAVEY - Norfolk, Herts, West Ham.  MILLS - Hampshire.  GARLAND - Sussex.  BRIGHT - Hampshire, GULLIVER - Hampshire, Sussex, London.  NOCKELS - Norfolk.  POMEROY - Exeter.  RANDALL - Sussex, Surrey.  REYNOLDS - Cambridgeshire.  BOWYER - Cambridgeshire & Suffolk.  STUPPELL - Kent.  MISSEN - Cambridgeshire.  TAYLOR - Cambridgeshire.  TOWNSEND - London.  CURTIN - London, GIBBONS - Suffolk, BROWN - Suffolk, SWALE(S) - Yorkshire, GAIN - Sussex

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Re: info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 April 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi carole, yes there is a one in columns 7 and 8 of the 1911 image. When I look at column 9 it looks like the child was still living. If you look at the census youīll see Shiel Barry had what i think is unusual handwriting but the marks in those columns are clear. They were living at Argyll Mansions in Chelsea, London.

Thanks Robbo, iīll look up those links.


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 April 09 23:15 BST (UK) »
By the way Robbo, I have a copy of his fatherīs obituary which I found on the net. He appeared on stage in Australia and Ireland  as well as London.

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Re: info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 April 09 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The 1911 census shows a Maire Shiel Barry (b1908) living in Westhampnett, Sussex.

FreeBMD births has this    :-\  :

Moina Margaret DR Barry   MarQ 1908   Chelsea 1a   412


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 April 09 20:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for the help, I have a few things to look into which will hopefully take me furthur.  By the way Carole, like your avatar, beautiful cat.

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Re: info about Shiel Barry/Dorothy Minto
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 May 09 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm related to Shiel Barry - my grandmother was his cousin. I've recently learnt a fair amount about Shiel & Dorothy Minto, and about Shiel's parents. His mother Rachel was my great grandmother's older sister.

Are you descended from Shiel & Dorothy?


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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 May 09 07:52 BST (UK) »
Iīm not descended from them. He was my great grandmotherīs nephew.