Author Topic: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?  (Read 10018 times)

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Hello,

I would be very grateful if anyone is able to give me some info, but it's a tall order, I know!

I am looking for the births for two people who married at the Holy Trinity in Jan 1815. They are John Arnett and Frances/Fanny Goodhand. Both were born in Hull in 1791, according to IGI records. As the IGI trail seems to stop there, I would like to find their parents either via their marriage or birth records....

I live in West Sussex and although many records from this area are available online,I am happy to help with any rogue parish record look-ups in the Southwick/Shoreham area, in return!

Many thanks!

Yours hopefully,
Sarahcat

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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 April 09 15:51 BST (UK) »
That record (Arnett/ Goodhand) is not in the extracted batch.

There is a submitted John Arnett / Fanny (unknown) stated as BEFORE 1815.
Marraiages at that era contain very little info.

Can you post the link for 'your' record?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyYorkshire_(I-L).htm#K

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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 April 09 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Just looked again at my notes and have exact date of marriage for John Arnett and Fanny Goodhand from LDS site, but of course no IGI number attached to it(or to their births,as cited on the marriage record) Date is 08 March 1811.
Not sure how to create link to it though, or if is allowed  to do so?

Looked on the link you sent-thank you for that. Couldn't find anything there initially, but will double check...

Thanks again,

Sarahcat

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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 April 09 16:50 BST (UK) »
p.s the Jan 1815 date related to their daughter's birth, not the marriage.Doh! having one of those days!! Sarahcat


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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 April 09 17:04 BST (UK) »
I think the point Pauline is making is that the marriage entry that you've found on the IGI isn't one that's been extracted from the parish records, which is why there is no source information. The entry is one submitted by a member of the LDS church, and, therefore, not to be accepted without proper verification. The validity of such entries varies: some are pure invention, others are for real. There's no way to know which is which without checking the actual PRs.

It follows that the 1791 birthdate given for both Fanny and John(ny!) are probably just 'best guesses'.

You should also note that the submitted entry just says that the marriage took place in Kingston upon Hull. If this is correct, it may have been Holy Trinity, but it could also have been at St Mary's, Lowgate. Also, you shouldn't rule out Drypool, Marfleet, Sculcoates and Sutton which are now part of Hull. I know how difficult it is to identify possible parishes when you don't live in the area.

Have you managed to find either of them on the 1841 census? Or even, if you're lucky, they may have survived until 1851 when they would hopefully indicate their places of birth.

Jill
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 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 April 09 17:06 BST (UK) »
Sorry can't help with the marriage, my records are 1792-1812

IGI has an extracted baptism at Holy Trinity
Elizabeth ARNETT   9 Jan 1815   Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire
 parents John  ARNETT and Frances

Don't know if you have these baptisms, they may fit in somewhere, all Holy Trinity Church, Hull:

11 Mar 1812  Saml, son of John & Frances Arnett

27 Sep 1803 Eliz. d R'd & Han'h Arnett
2 Aug 1808 Martha d Richard & Hannah Arnett
28 Jul 1812 James s Richard & Ann Arnett

2 Apr 1804 Mary d Jas & Eliz. Arnett
16 Sep 1805 Mary Ann d James & Eliz Arnet
20 May 1811 Elizabeth d James & Elizabeth Arnett

24 Nov 1800 Edward s Wm & Mary Ann Arnett

Barbara  :)
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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 April 09 17:10 BST (UK) »
Barbara,

Your records might help - the submitted IGI has the marriage 8 March 1811.

If not, I'll see if I can pop into the Record Office next week and check it out.

Jill
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 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 April 09 17:19 BST (UK) »
No sorry, only have transcripts for baptisms, just thought they might come in handy somewhere in Sarah's tree, as they don't seem to be on the IGI

Barbara
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Re: Parish records look up if possible?Kingston-Upon-Hull, probably Holy Trinity?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 April 09 17:23 BST (UK) »
I've just noticed that there seems to be a gap in IGI coverage of Holy Trinity marriages 1762-1812.

So, if the submitted IGI is correct and if the gap isn't due to the PR entries not surviving, I might actually find it at the RO!!  ::)

Oh well, worth a try!

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.