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Cramlington Baptisms question please
« on: Thursday 23 April 09 15:22 BST (UK) »
I am reading a film of the Parish Registers for Cramlington 1665-1876, Chapelry of Cramlington, I'm currently focusing on baptisms that took place in the late 1600's to the mid 1700's and am curious about the wording in them.

For example - 
1755 Feb 4th John son of George & Margaret Smith baptised Shankhouse or 1744 June 10th Jane daughter of James & Isabel Jones baptised Damdykes others say baptised West Cramlington or baptised East Cramlington and there are likely other place names I've not come across yet.

Please could some one shed some light on this as I've not come across it before, I suspect the clue lies in "Chapelry of Cramlington but other than that I can't begin to work it out.


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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 April 09 15:51 BST (UK) »
Mm,

 Not sure what you are after ?. Are you just saying you have not heard of these places.

Every parish covered a chunk of territory that included several communities/towns/villages/hamlets. That what a parish was ! With the place where the parish church was situated giving  it's name to the parish.

 As a lad I remember having a drink in the Albion Inn, Shankhouse.  Near East Hartford .    East Cramlington is near Seaton Delaval. Dam Dykes lay in the south west part of the parish, in Arcot area.

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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 April 09 15:54 BST (UK) »


 PS.    The baptisms likely  took place in the Parish Church  , dedicated to St Nicholas.  Thje places were the abode of the family.

MD
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 April 09 22:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Michael

Sorry I wasn't clear. I have heard of these places except Damdykes, that was a new one to me, and I understand what a parish was.

It was the wording "baptised Shankhouse" etc that had me questioning if the baptisms took place in the Parish Church. I am perhaps more accustomed to wording along the lines of say "John son of George and Margaret Smith Shankhouse".

Hope I have made myself clearer this time, likely not.  ::)

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 April 09 23:10 BST (UK) »
Maggiemae,

The Northumberland section of GenUKI site "Parishes" allows you to see all places that lay within a particular parish.

There have been few occasions were the Bishop's Transcripts have not accurately represented what was in the original register.

 I do not know about Anglican practices of the era, but a catholic priest might have done a home baptism if the child was ill ?

MD

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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 April 09 23:34 BST (UK) »
Anglicans did it too but they are normally written up as 'privately baptised' or 'private baptism'.  This was my first thought when I read the post.  Maybe one particular vicar had his own way of recording them but if they cover a long period or there are a lot of them maybe there was another reason.

Were there any little chapels in East Cramlington or Shankhouse etc?

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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 April 09 23:53 BST (UK) »
Michael

You asked "There have been few occasions were the Bishop's Transcripts have not accurately represented what was in the original register."

I believe I am reading the original register, LDS Film, not BT's, although when I came to a single baptism entry for an illegitimate child in 1765 there was a note dated 1773 which read ..............
The above is only a transcription of the register for the original see the old book of Parchment which is brought down to October 7th 1781.

I had considered the theory of an ill child being baptised at home but all entries in the time frame I have looked at read the same. The family I am looking at had ten children baptised between 1742 and 1759 and the entries all read "baptised Shankhouse".

Perhaps it was just the way the scribe of the day liked to record things, if you could advise of another theory I would be grateful.

Have to mention GenUKI is my guiding light, particularly in terms of finding discovering where what are to me are obscure place names.

Maggiemae


Christine your reply popped in as I was typing .....

 I don't know if the were any little chapels anywhere near Cramlington but that was what I had in mind when I read the entries. Do hope someone can suggest a way of finding out.

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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 April 09 00:01 BST (UK) »
I thought Michael might know about the chapels  - Michael?

I had a thread running on the Norfolk section about a parish where all the baptisms were private.  Turns out that the vicar had 3 parishes on the go at the same time and wasn't always there to do the honours.  I'm not aware of anything like that around here though.

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Re: Cramlington Baptisms question please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 April 09 00:08 BST (UK) »
I've just been looking at some old OS maps and can only see Methodist chapels at Shankhouse and West Cramlington so I think that idea bites the dust!

C