Palterton/Bolsover Parish Records

[lizzylily]

Please can someone help, I am trying to find the ancestors of George Heald born c.1821 the Census records have him from Palterton and he married Sarah Ann Millward.
The IGI has given me several possibilites for parents and siblings from both Palterton and nearby Bolsover but from where I live I have no way of looking at the Parish Records.
Thanks in advance
Liz

[charlotteCH]

Liz, Welcome to rootschat.

Have you thought of seeing in the 1851 census where he says he was born?that should narrow the field a bit for you. 

If you don't have acess to the census [ and sorry I don't either  ] you could ask for a lookup from another RCer..

charlotte

[lizzylily]

Hi Charlotte

Thanks for your reply.

I have indeed seen the 1851 and all the other Census's and have gone forward quite well getting birth, marriage and death certificates where necessary and I now have a good picture of how our family developed from my great-great grandparents to the present day, of course still with a few omissions in places.

I have now hit a brick wall with going back before 1837 and the start of the BMD Register.  Unfortunately the Parishes my great-great grandfather and his ancestors came from are not on line, all the records are held in Matlock which is a long way from where I live.

I am new to this website, what is a RCer...?, maybe they could help.

Regards
Liz

[charlotteCH]

Hi again Liz...
 an RCer is a rootschatter ... I should have explained.. sorry

charlotte

[didowells]

Hi Liz

Can't really help you but it would look as though William and Elizabeth were George's parents.

If you Google for Heald quite a few sites come up.  One of them is:

http://www.healds.org.uk/ 

I don't know if you have looked at this.

Di

[lizzylily]

Thanks Di

I think William and Elizabeth could be too but it would be nice to confirm it.

I will certainly have a look at the website to see what I can find out.

Liz

[spendlove]

Hi,

I note your George Heald born (according to most census records abt 1825) is married in
Allestree however the church record on IGI gives no parents.  The Marriage Registration
is December 1845 Belper 19 429 - does this certificate give name of his Father? (assume you
have purchased this).

In the 1841 Census, living in West Row, Darley Abbey, Hundred of Morleston & Litchurch is
HO 107/188/2 Folio 11 Pg 17

George Heald  45  Cordwainer  born Derbys
Hannah  "       45                       not born Derbys
George   "      15   Cordwainer  Born Derbys
Hannah   "     20    Cotton Spinner      "
Catherine       15      "                         "
Jane               15      "                         "
Sarah             14      "                         "
Ann                10      "                         "
George            3                                 "
(Ages of children aged 15 is because Adult ages were rounded down by up to 4 years on this census)
On the site Yesterday's Journey
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/.

is listed the following removal order from Scarcliffe to Chesterfield in 1830
RM7/1532 George HEALD, Catherine wife, Hannah, Catherine, George, Jane, Sarah. to Chesterfield  1830.

Consider that the above named children (as listed on 1841 Census above) are the children of
George Heald = Catharine Unwin 4.10.1819 Bolsover.

Hannah wife on 1841 Census is possible 2nd marriage,  and the children of this marriage could be
Ann 10 and George 4.

Darley Abbey is very near to Allestree and both are within  2 miles of Derby.  The girls would have
been working in the Cotton Mill in Darley Abbey owned by the Evans Family.

I cannot find George & Hannah in the 1851 Census, but think this is him in the 1861
RG9/2496 Folio 92 Pge 8   St. Alkmund Parish, Derby born 1795 Bolsover.

Hope this is of some assistance.
Spendlove.

[lizzylily]

Hi Spendlove
Thanks for the info, I found the Yesterday site very interesting reading.  I had never heard of Removals before..!
I also didn't know that ages were rounded down, I wondered why there were so many 15 year olds in one family...!
The George to which you refer is probably a cousin of my George who we think was the son of William & Elizabeth.

I have been looking at the Heald.org site which another Roots Member told me about and I am gradually sorting out
who begat who.

Liz

[mrs magoo]

liz tis me karen we got in touch through the healds.am nz
anyway george born 1825 parents george b abt 1796 and hannah, she could be geo 2nd wife 1796
look on family search and click on search records then search pilot or something like that, and it gives you box to put surname etc in, i put in george heald 1825, it comes up with his 3 marriages and has father of groom(george)
i found hannah somewhere on will check my notes.
karen