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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 11:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, MM.....I'm not all that familiar with NSW and just have to keep referring to Google maps!  ;D  ;D


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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 11:44 BST (UK) »
Bit of "local" info, from my own family history,

Maitland is in Hunter (Newcastle) region of NSW, and in the late 19th, early 20th C was where people in Western Districts of NSW often came from and went to (thus avoiding the "big smoke" of Sydney.  Easy access there through Blue Mtns, straight west, along what is now referred to as the Golden Highway.  Umm, was a droving route from Dubbo to the Sales Yards at Cessnock etc pre WW1. 


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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 11:49 BST (UK) »
Bit More

If Cath Curran was a Coonamble when Joseph enlisted it could also be possible that she was the Cath Curran that died at Brewarrina in 1915......She must have been at least 45 or so you would think when Joseph enlisted, so maybe it was her that died at Brewarrina. ...Just looking at my notes, the cath Curran that died at Brewarrina was the daughter or Michael and Ann Curran.

Umm, perhaps the Dubbo FHS will have info on that death, the resources I saw in that class-room, the care they took, and they were covering all of the Western Districts, ie west of the Great Dividing range, not just west of Sydney, west of the range, - remember seeing info from Wagga there, and from Brewarrina, and from Tamworth.

Have we tried the Maitland newspapers online at nla.gov.au - will try these now and edit the post later this evening.
EDIT 1, have found a reference to a Mrs Curran as a witness in a court case..... John Henry Nolan was charged with ..... on the 18th of Aug. last, at a hut about five miles from  Inverell. (western districts again)......Mrs. Curran, with whom Nolan lived, deposed that he was at home ........ the year? 1880

EDIT 2  Mrs Curran was arrested as accessory after the fact.....  more edits to come.

EDIT 3 Have found a James Curran (is this is father, perhaps Kate was not the one as informant on birth rego, perhaps not literate), but there's a James Curran mentioned in the Brewarrina Stock report in the Maitland papers, 1882, he a drover.  He was droving 400 store cattle from Bando in Queensland to the Mole.  The cattle were the property of the Gardiners. Thursday 12 October 1882 The Maitland Mercury, and Hunter River General Advertiser 

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 14 May 09 04:40 BST (UK) »
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Attaching two jpeg files from abt 1900 showing electoral boundaries for one of the western districts including Dubbo and the electoral boundary to the east of that one, the Hunter.

Searching through 1903 rolls for Kate Curran, as 1903 included Females for first time.  We are searching polling place to polling place as no keyword search available on the sub that gives us access.  Will edit with positive progress reports later this evening.

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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 14 May 09 04:56 BST (UK) »
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1903 Roll, CURRAN at Musclebrook (Mussellbrook) in the Hunter.
Bridget Theresa, domestic duties
Clara, same occ
Emma Jane, same
Hannah Doohan, same
James Francis Joseph, tailor
John, labourer
Patrick, contractor
Thomas Augustus, labourer
William Martin, labourer

WILL ADD EDITS TO THIS POST FROM THE 1903 ROLL SEARCHING on line using ummm ihr thingy.  JM

First edit
Surname Curran
1903 Hunter Electorate, West Maitland polling place
Ellen, "Telarah", domestic duties
James, Plaistow St, Stone Mason
Lizzie, Hunter St, domestic duties

Second edit
Surname Curran
1903 Newcastle Electorate, Hamilton polling place
Ellen, Bridge Street East, domestic duties
Ellen, junior, Bridge Street East, domestic duties
Patrick, Woodville, miner

Third edit
Surname Curran
1903 Newcastle Electorate, Newcastle City polling place
Catherine,  3 Morgan St, domestic duties IS THIS KATE (Maitland near Newcastle)
Henry, Morgan St, Hotel Keeper (no street number, can anyone please CHECK hotel licence of London Hotel perhaps for genie info
Mabel, Morgan St, domestic duties
William, London Hotel, Morgan St, labourer

Fourth edit
Surname Curran
1903 Newcastle Electorate, New Lambton polling place
Mary, Carrington Pde, domestic duties
Richard, Carrington Pde, miner

Fifth edit
Surname Curran
1903 Newcastle Electorate, Stockton polling place
Bridget Agnes, Newcastle Street, domestic duties

Sixth edit
Surname Curran
1903 Newcastle Electorate, Wallsend Polling place
Denies (yes, as per roll), Brookstown, miner
Elizabeth, Johns Street Brookstown, domestic duties

and same electorate, Waratah polling place
Mary Francis, High Street, domestic duties
Walter Robert, High Street, independent means

and same electorate, West Wallsend polling place
Elizabeth, West Wallsend, domestic duties, ALSO NOTICED
CurrEn, James, West Wallsend, coal-miner

Further 1903 details will be on later posts  JM
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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 14 May 09 05:55 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

Again, I will edit progressively - JM


1903 NSW Electorate of Robertson, DUBBO polling place
Surname Curran
Henry, at Burrabadeen, a farmer
Henry, at Burrabadeen, a farmer (yes, two entries, suggesting TWO males)
Mary Jane, at Burrabadeen, domestic duties

First edit
Same Roll, Same Electorate, Gulgong polling place
Surname Curran
Edward, at Beryl, a miner
Ellen, at Gulgong, domestic duties
Hugh at Gulgong, a van driver
James, Gulgong, cordial manufacturer
John Francis, Gulgong, cordial manufacturer
Patrick Joseph, Gulgong, cordial manufacturer

Second Edit
Same Roll & Electorate, Merrendee Polling place
Surname Curran
Elizabeth, at Melrose, domestic duties

Third Edit
Same Roll & Electorate, Mitchell's Creek Polling Place
James Curran at Bodangora, a herdsman

Fourth Edit
Same Roll & Electorate, Cooyal Polling Place
Surname Curran
Bridget Mary, domestic duties
Catherine, domestic duties IS THIS KATE
Catherine May, domestic duties KATE perhaps
Ellen, domestic duties
John Patrick, farmer
Margaret, domestic duties
Mary Agnes, domestic duties
Patrick John, labourer
Thomas, farmer
William, farmer
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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 14 May 09 06:40 BST (UK) »
Bit More, Still on 1903 NSW Electoral Roll, and the various Electorates in the Western Districts.

Electorate of Gwdyir
Polling Place, Coonabarrabran
Surname Curran
Christenna, domestic duties
James, post master

Will continue to edit as progressively find others surnamed CURRAN on the 1903 NSW roll

First Edit
Polling Place Mungindi,
Michael John, at Mungindi, a tailor
Samuel Valentine, at Mungindi, a labourer

Second Edit
Polling Place, Warialdra
Michael John, Hope St, Warialdra, a tailor

Polling Place, Wee Waa
Frank, at Pran Creek, a labourer
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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 14 May 09 08:01 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

re Arrival of the Glamis 1881
Bit More,

There is an arrival in NSW on the vessel Glamis of Kate Curran Age: 16 (abt 1865) Female
Arrived 10 Jan 1881. Could be her?

Just Moi


Have found that the Glamis (of Dundee, capt John Rollo, -1150 tons) departed London via Plymouth, and arrived Sydney 11 January 1881, and among the MALE passengers was JAMES CURRAN, but have yet to find his age mentioned. Could this James Curran be sibling or parent to Kate or the other girls?

EDIT TO ADD
The passenger list is on Reels 2141, 2492 at the NSW State Archives, not sighted the reels but the online index for those reels shows on this voyage
CURRAN   Frank   12   
CURRAN   Hugh   16   
CURRAN   Kate   16   
CURRAN   Grace   20   
CURRAN   James   20   
CURRAN   Ellen   21   

OH of JM         



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Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 14 May 09 08:21 BST (UK) »
1913 Electoral Roll sighting for Joseph James CURRAN in Brisbane, Queensland   

The image is distorted as the roll seems to be tightly bound, but

Seat of Oxley, polling place of Brisbane South.

Line 510.  This is an alphabetical list by surname, the distorted letter MUST be the First letter "C"
I can read only last four letters of surname, which seems to be six letters long.... This can only be CURRAN, and I read .  .  rran, Joseph James, Melbourne Hotel, S.B.. (not sure what S.B.. means), barman.

Still searching.

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