Author Topic: 1861 census look up please.  (Read 1781 times)

Offline Beard grandchild

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Mother and I, Mablethorpe, 1955
    • View Profile
1861 census look up please.
« on: Friday 15 May 09 23:55 BST (UK) »
Could someone look on the 1861 census for Owston Ferry and find me James Isle born 1854, living in the household of Robert Nelson.
Does it give Hull as the place of birth for James, and what relationship does it give for him to Robert?
Thanks,
Pat.
Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire

Offline hepburn

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,713
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:04 BST (UK) »
Yes he's down as Nephew and born in Hull age 7.
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

Offline Treelover

  • I have turned off all email notifications
  • --
  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,251
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

Robert Nelson  Head Mar 26 Ag Labv born Owston
Sarah E  dau 4 scholar born ditto
Mary I day 2 born ditto
Teresia? dau one month born ditto
Angelo says Rampold but don't think that is correct  father in law Mar 61 Yeast Dealr Born Italy - British Subject
Elizabeth Rampold?  mother in law Mar 66 Born Althorpe Lincs
JAMES ISLE 7 nephew born HULL YORKSHIRE
Mary Nelson wife mar 24 born Althorp

Joan

Offline Beard grandchild

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Mother and I, Mablethorpe, 1955
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks hepburn,
I thought that I'd got the right information, but I can't trace a birth for him at all.
Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire


Offline Beard grandchild

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Mother and I, Mablethorpe, 1955
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:14 BST (UK) »
Hi treelover,
Thanks for your help too.
Father in law is Angelo Rampoldi -
 Mary Nelson was born Marena Rampoldi.
 Elizabeth Rampoldi was born Elizabeth Isle

I can't fit James in at all, as Marena appears to have been a twin - the other one died at birth and I can't find any more siblings who could have been James's mother!
Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire

Offline Treelover

  • I have turned off all email notifications
  • --
  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,251
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:15 BST (UK) »
Don't know if you have this already


  Living Owston 1871 census

RG10; Piece: 3439; Folio: 67; Page: 31

Angelo Rampolle (rampoldi) Wid Head 70 Yeast Dealer Born Italy
james Isle un 17 GRANDSON born Hull

Looks like he might not be nephew????

Joan

Offline Beard grandchild

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Mother and I, Mablethorpe, 1955
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:30 BST (UK) »
Yes, I had got that thanks Treelover. I'm working on the theory that James must have been Marena's illegitimate child born before she married Robert Nelson in 1856.
The name Isle obviously comes from Elizabeth's family, not Robert's. and as Marena appears to have been Elizabeth and Angelo's only surviving child - unless Elizabeth had another child before she married Angelo in 1835 , I can't see any other solution!
Names;- Beard -Worcestershire
Blessington - Burton on Trent/ East Lothian
Snow - Isle of Axholme
Torn - Owston Ferry, Lincolnshire
Gleadle - Lincolnshire
Allen - Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire
Smith -Nottinghamshire/ Derbyshire

Offline GeoffE

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,995
  • Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 May 09 09:12 BST (UK) »
Note in 1841
HO107/626-9/2/1
Elizabeth RAMPOLDI 35
Mary 4
Elisha HATTERSLEY 13
Harriet ISLE 11

Baptised as Harriett HATTERSLEY 1830, dau of Elizabeth HATTERSLEY

James ISLE (wid) married Elizabeth HATTERSLEY 2 Sept 1832 Althorpe

James ISLE buried 25 June 1834 (72!)

James ISLE married Mary LEGGOTT 28 Jan 1800 Althorpe ... a few kids bap at Crowle perhaps
Don't cry because its over. Smile because it happened.

Offline GeoffE

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,995
  • Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1861 census look up please.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 May 09 09:24 BST (UK) »
Harriott ISLE 21 was in Hook, Yorks in 1851 - birthplace given as Hawthorpe (Yorks) - the hilliterate haitch strikes again! :D

1856 she married James PARKIN and is to be found in Hook in 1861 as PARKING - birthplace given as Derrythorpe which is adjoining Althorpe. Map http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=483256&Y=409719&A=Y&Z=120
Don't cry because its over. Smile because it happened.