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Offline Sheena2002

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ethal swatman
« on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:29 BST (UK) »
hello, i am new here and hope i get all this right!
im trying to find info on ethal swatman, im afraid i do not have much info, but here is the story,

she was living in the south of england (not sure where) and met an american solider called XXXX XXXX, they went together until the war finished, then XXXX went back to the usa, afterwards ethal discovered she was pregnant, and seeing as how this was the 40's she was very brave and decided to have and keep the baby, the baby was born in 1945, and she raised the child for 2 years but she got very unwell and gave the baby up for adoption, she sadly passed away not long after. the child has not got any info apart from her name as the home they were sent to had a big fire and the paperwork involved in the adoption was destroyed, i have been trying myself to find info out but not having much luck so if anyone could help i would be truley grateful.
with thanks

looking4

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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:35 BST (UK) »
Hello,

This looks like a possible birth for Ethel.

Dec 1917, Wolverhampton, 6b/892
Ethel D Swatman
Mother's maiden name, Preston.

Do you know which year she died - if i can check her age at death, it will help clarify whether or not I have the right birth record.

Jen
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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:46 BST (UK) »
I have found her death record but there is a bit of confusion on the age.

Sep 1947, Southampton/6b/474
Ethel D Swatman, aged 20

This makes her a full ten years younger than the birth record suggests but it is an uncommon name and I am inclined to think there has been an error on the death record.

I am going to check the birth records for the child but I can't post information on here about living people so I need you to make  two more posts, then I will be able to send you a personal message, if I find more relevant information.

Jen
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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:46 BST (UK) »
hello, thank you so much for this, as far as we are aware she would of died in 1947/48 but we really are unsure, i know that is of no help..sorry


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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:50 BST (UK) »
do you mean two more of these? im sorry but still all new to this but im guessing thats what you mean?

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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:51 BST (UK) »
That's exactly what I meant!

I think have found the birth record so will send you a personal message with the details and you can reply to that to let me know if I have the right person.

Jen
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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 11:53 BST (UK) »
thank you jen, looking forward to reading it 

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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 12:17 BST (UK) »
Ok, now that we have established that we are on the right track....

Ethel's parents marriage:

Mar 1900 Wolverhampton, 6b/767
George Richard Swatman
Sarah Ann Preston.

The 1911 census has them living in Wolverhampton with five children. If you go to the 1911 census web site http://www.1911census.co.uk
You can search for them yourself and if you are prepared to pay for the credits, you can see and print the original image, probably with George's own handwriting on it.

I'm off to find them before they married. George will be easy - Sarah maybe more tricky because it's a more common name but I'll let you know.

Jen

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NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: ethal swatman
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 12:23 BST (UK) »
Here they are as newly-weds in 1901

RG13/2687/51/10 ( this is the census reference, RG13 means it was 1901)

Graiseby Lane, Wednesfield, Staffs

George Swatman, 24 Vermin Trap Maker, born Wednesfield
Sarah A Swatman, 23                                            "

I don't want to keep doing this if you'd rather have the fun of finding them yourself but am more than happy to carry on if it's what you want.

Jen :)
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson