Toddington PR Lookup - ROBINSON

[PLUCKROSE]

Hi,

I am searching for the birth/christening record for JAMES ROBINSON in Toddington in about 1752.

IGI has the record of his marriage to Elizabeth Potter at Tingrith in 1777, and shows his birth as indicated above. However there is no IGI record of his christening nor parentage.

Any assistance in searching the parish registers for the latter pieces of information would be appreciated.

Pluckrose

[nanny jan]

Hi,

The marriage record shown on the IGI, along with birth imformation, is a submitted one and so should be treated with a certain amount of caution until the actual parish register can be viewed.

Are you certain he was born in Toddington c1752?


Nanny Jan

[PLUCKROSE]

Hi Nanny Jan,

Thanks for your message.

I cannot be certain that he was born either in 1752 or in Toddington. Whilst there are numerous Robinsons in Toddington during that period, his birth does not appear in the IGI transription of the Toddington parish register. The only reference to him is the IGI record of his marriage in Tingrith.

Unfortunately I am unable to consult the original parish register at this time as I am resident in France.


Regards

Pluckrose

[nanny jan]

Hi Pluckrose,

If you are near a family history centre run by the LDS you can order films of  parish registers which they have recorded; I believe the costs are quite modest.


Nanny Jan

[bedfordshire boy]

Toddington parish register pre 1812 has been extracted onto the IGI. If it's not there he's unlikely to have been baptised in Toddington unless the family was non-conformist.

The member submission for his birth in 1752 was calculated by deducting 25 from the year of marriage, it being a well known fact in the LDS church that ALL males marry at the age of 25. So the 1752 can be ignored. It's a guess. The Toddington part may be based on his parish of residence shown on the marriage entry, but it would take reference to the microfilm, or the Tingrith transcript if anyone has access to it, to see if that was what was actually said. But parish of residence at the time of marriage is not the same thing as birthplace.

David, also resident in France

[PLUCKROSE]

Hi again Nanny Jan,

Thanks for your continuing interest.  I have consulted records at an LDS centre in France, but am not close enough to make a special visit.

Will have to wait until my next trip  - unless some kind person comes up with an answer.

Regards

Pluckrose

[PLUCKROSE]

Hi David,

Thanks for your message.  I am hoping that the IGI transcription of the Toddington PR is incomplete, and the birth/christening has been omitted. There is no record of a James Robinson born/christened in Toddington until 30+ years later.

However I do agree with you that he is more likely to have originated from another parish - the most likely being Westoning.

As suggested by Nanny Jan, the answer may have to wait until I can visit an LDS centre.

Regards

Pluckrose

[johnP-bedford]

Plucknose;

The marriage entry at Tingrith on Dec 10 1777 says James Robinson was from Toddington, & was by licence; but there is no data in the marriage licences transcript for that period.   

The Toddington PR has no baprtism for him though around 1752.

As you've suggested there is a baptism of James Robinson in Westoning on Sept 25 1756, son of James & Ann Robinson.

regards John

[PLUCKROSE]

Hi John,

Many thanks for your message.  I apologise for the delay in responding - I have been away for a few days.

It is possible that James was the son of James and Ann of Westoning. However there are two sets of couples named James and Elizabeth Robinson producing offspring in both Toddington and Westoning at the same time! 

The unravelling of the puzzle will probably have to wait until I can consult the original sources, but it seems likely that the James Robinson of Toddington was not the one born in Westoning. The search goes on!

Many thanks for your help,, and especially for the information that the Tingrith marriage was by licence.

Best regards

Pluckrose