irish immigrants in kent c1840

[nelwild]

hello,i was wondering if anyone might know why families from ireland where living on isle of sheppey in kent c1840.i have two brothers that each married irish women in a joint marriage in eastchurch in august 1841.one was elizabeth buckley,the other was mary ann hagarty.elizabeths father was william buckley and mary anns was thomas hagarty.this is all i know,ive been unable to get back further despite messages on irish section,not knowing which part theyre from doesnt help.if anyone can help with them,or can tell me why they might have been in eastchurch id be very grateful,thanks,nel.

[aghadowey]

Is there any military connections by any chance? Many Irish people moved back and forth between Ireland and England/Wales/Scotland as all were part of Britain.

[Siamese Girl]

In the 1841 census Robert Streeting aged 25 a labourer is living in Coldharbour Square St Mary Northgate Canterbury
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The other people living at the same address, although there is a comma between their names indicating they live separately, are Elizabeth Buckley 20, Henry Buckley 3, Elizabeth Buckley 2 and Mary Buckley 1. Everyone in the house was recorded as being born in Kent.

Are they the right ones?

Carole

Added:

1861
Robert Streeting, general labourer 40 born Canterbury is living in New Ruttington Lane St Mary Northgate with his wife Mary Ann 37 born in England and children James 21, Emily 8, William 6, Esther 3 and Jane 1 all born in Canterbury.
On the same page is a Thomas Buckley 25 unmarried a basin maker born in Canterbury. It's all a bit confusing, and I can't see the Irish connection ?

[nelwild]

carole,many thanks for the reply.thomas streeting is my ancestor,robert is his brother.on the 1841 robert is mistranscribed as streeling born 1820,and thomas is living with elizabeth streeting and her children but for some reason using roberts name.thomas married elizabeth in eastchurch in 1841,robert married mary ann hagarty the day after.on the 1851 the two brothers are living next to each other,mary ann born british subject,elizabeth born england.by 1881,mary ann is born ireland.elizabeth is on the 1871 mistranscribed as elizabeth shaling born ireland.not sure where thomas buckley fits in,he could be elizabeths first husband as she had three kids on 1841.very confusing i know,if you can help id be grateful,thanks,nel.

[supermoussi]

The Irish Potato famine started in 1845 but there was a lot of discontent in the preceeding years which lead to many Irish people leaving Ireland for good.

[Siamese Girl]

I'm not having much sucess finding Thomas and Elizabeth - I can only find Elizabeth Buckley on the 1841 census when she said she was born in Kent.

Mary Ann Hagarty/Streetings age seems to vary on the census returns but a birthdate c.1820 looks likely. The only census I can find which says she was born in Ireland is the 1881 and I can only see a transcript of that so I don't know what the original says. In 1861 she says she was born in England and 1871 Chatham Kent, which, if she is the Mary Streeten living in Canterbury in 1891 Chatham again, is given as her place of birth.

Have you searched for her baptism in the Chatham Parish Registers? http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FEcclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes%2FP085_CHATHAM_ST_MARY_1568_1974%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList  (Unfortuntely there are lots of them!!!)

It's quiet probable with a name like Hagerty, she at least was of Irish stock, and of course there was the dockyard at Chatham which drew in a lot of people from various places, but I still don't see why you think both women were born in Ireland?

Carole

[annieoburns]

My forebears on several lines were Irish and ended up in Sheppey. The first arrived c 1837 to train as a shipwright in the naval dockyards.  He married a women whose father was born in Ireland but had worked most of his life in England as a coastguard officer.  He spent 17 years attached to the  large defense establishment in Sheerness called Garrison Point.  Their son went on to become a shipwright and marry a wife from an Irish shipwright background.  Religion would have been an obvious reason for the many marriages between folk of similar backgrounds.  The coastguard families would have mixed socially and also the shipwright/dockyard workers and their families.
Anne