Jones in Walsall

[kunifer]

Bit of a long shot with the name Jones, but I have come to a full stop trying to trace my Great Grandfathers parents. He was Charles Edward Jones b 1885 in Walsall. I am told by only surviving relative who remembers him that he had 2 brothers Thomas and John (Jack). John being the eldest and who is believed to have disappeared on to the road as a tramp. While Charles and Thomas were taken into an orphanage (Walsall was mentioned?) when the family split up (reason not known).
Their was also 2 sisters one, Catherine or Caroline the other Mary who I was told were taken into a convent in maybe Hereford when the family split.
I think this might be a tall order so not holding my breath.

[familysearcher]

have you got any idea as to who he married?  if you were able to get the marriage certificate it would give you his father's name

Sue

[familysearcher]

also found this on free bmd in Q3 1885:

  Charles Edwards Jones,   Dudley  6c 130

might be him?  (Dudley was in staffordshire at the time.......)

sue

[kunifer]

Re bmd, probably not him as my aunt, his daughter said later in life he had problems because his birth was not originally registered.

I do know who he married, Amy Nicklin b 1887.

I did find him aged 5 in 1891 census (folio 6, page 6, schedule 37), living at the Jones family address my Aunt had mention previously, 15 Ryecroft St., Walsall foreign, but with the Quiller family as grandson??. My aunt did mention once that he may have been taken under the wing of a Tom Qaulters a family friend or lodger?

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Looking back through the censuses it looks like Charles be Mary's grandson (in-law)?


1861  RG9/2014  f.119  p.14  Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire
128 1/2 WHampton Rd

Thomas QUALTER     Head    W    39    Limeburner        Ireland
Thomas       "            Son          10    Scholar               "
Mary           "            Daur         8        "               Lancashire Warrington
Michael       "             Son          5        "                Staffordshire Walsall


Marriage     
Thomas QUALTER    Jun Q 1861    Walsall    6b  706
Martin BURKE
Mary GRAY
Mary QUIN        are the four with same details.



1871  RG10/2963  f.119  p.29  Walsall, Sataffordshire
27 Ryecroft Sq

Mary QUALTER    Head    W    45    Charwoman       Ireland Galway
Thomas              Son           17    Lock maker        Stafford Walsall
Mary                 Daur           15                               "          "
Catherine           Daur            7    Scholar                 "         "



1881  RG11/2826  f.9  p.12  Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire
2 Ryecroft St

Mary QUALTER       Head    W    50    Servant in Farm    Galway Ireland
Thomas    "             Son    S     28    Locksmith                 "        "
Alfred JONES  Son-in-law    M    24    Caster Iron        Staffordshire Walsall
Mary      "              Daur    M    24    Laundress          Lancashire Warrington
Thomas           Grandson           2                            Staffordshire Walsall


I have found this marriage,

Alfred JONES    Mar Q 1876    Walsall    6b  751
Mary Ann WALTERS with sames details.

Alfred JONES
Age: 21
Father's Name: Charles JONES
Mary Ann WALTERS
Spouse's Age: 20
Father's Name: Thomas WALTERS
31 Jan 1876
Rushall, Staffordshire

and wonder if QUALTER could have been mistranscribed as WALTERS at some point?


Regards
Daisy

[kunifer]

All very confusing