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Re: PEW SHANKS HASTIE
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 August 11 14:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Elwyn.

I will definitely look up that town. I have looked up Pugh as well as other possible spellings I have come across. The first generations of Pews in Scotland were definitely Protestant. Another spelling which has been used in Scotland for this particular family is Pue. I can see using the link you've given me that there are quite a few Pues in Down. in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.

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Rutherford, McKune, Elliot, Pew, Anderson, Little, Sturgeon, Manuel, Weild, Rutterford, Atkinson, Kirkup, Bradley, McKay, McDole, Whelan, Coulthard, Nile, Baker, Jardine, Glover, Seeker, Cartmer, Thompson, Ricahrdson, Huggon, Falcon, Blain, Scott, Hewitt, Irwin, McChrystal, Millar, McMichan/McMeekan, McKinlay, McLachlan, Gillogy, King, Bryant, Dixon, McCauley, McDavid, Hastie, McLauchlin, Fitzpatrick, Moore, Shanks, Bell, Corrigan, Woods, Mulhall, (Del) Dykes, Allgood

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 June 13 14:10 BST (UK) »
Well I am off to Ireland for a visit this July so I hope to dig further into this myself. I will be in County Down and I hope to see if I can uncover records not yet online.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 June 13 21:46 BST (UK) »
You are very lucky Moggerdog...I hope to do this sometime too, as I think it's the only way I'll find out any more information

Hope you find out loads !!

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 11:40 BST (UK) »
Have fun. Fingers cross you make a discovery  ;D
Rutherford, McKune, Elliot, Pew, Anderson, Little, Sturgeon, Manuel, Weild, Rutterford, Atkinson, Kirkup, Bradley, McKay, McDole, Whelan, Coulthard, Nile, Baker, Jardine, Glover, Seeker, Cartmer, Thompson, Ricahrdson, Huggon, Falcon, Blain, Scott, Hewitt, Irwin, McChrystal, Millar, McMichan/McMeekan, McKinlay, McLachlan, Gillogy, King, Bryant, Dixon, McCauley, McDavid, Hastie, McLauchlin, Fitzpatrick, Moore, Shanks, Bell, Corrigan, Woods, Mulhall, (Del) Dykes, Allgood

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 12:21 BST (UK) »
I've got 2 days only in Belfast as part of our trip but I am planning to visit the PRONI. I wonder too if it would be worth visiting some of the County Down parishes such as Kilkeel? There are some 'Pugh' records mentioned online pertaining to Annalong Presbyterian Church.  I have tried searching Shanks, Hastie, Pew and Bolton online but do not reap results that mean I can say any are ours for sure. I find some with those surnames who seem to hail from County Down, and of course couples could have met from different parishes, but I have nothing concrete. The details are so little. I cannot find a death certificate anywhere for Thomas Pew born c. 1796 although I did for his widow Elizabeth Shanks. I wonder if he moved back to Ireland or on to somewhere else? I checked Free BMB but no joy there either. If you have anything at all you would like me to try and find out while in Ireland or to ask at PRONI then please let me know. How do you fellow researchers know they came from the County Down area? I was told this by another relative tracing our history at one time but the only information I can personally find says simply 'Ireland'.

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 12:33 BST (UK) »
How did you find out the exact date of birth in Ireland for Robert Pew's brother Thomas Katrina? The Irish stuff baffles me. Spent so long trying to find records  :-\

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 13:23 BST (UK) »
The Irish stuff baffles me too.

My interpretation is that Thomas Pew born c. 1796 died before the Scottish statutory records started in 1855 and that is the reason we don't have his death record. The fact that Elizabeth is listed as a widow in the 1851 census supports this.

The first year of the statutory records in Scotland, 1855, was like a trial year. The information given in the 1855 records is far more detailed than subsequent years. Thomas (b.1837) married in 1855. His marriage record provides his date and place of birth. However, I've not been able to find a record of this in the Irish records, but of course he was born before statutory records were established in Ireland. If there were any church records for him they could have been lost in the infamous fire or, fingers crossed, they're just not available online.
Rutherford, McKune, Elliot, Pew, Anderson, Little, Sturgeon, Manuel, Weild, Rutterford, Atkinson, Kirkup, Bradley, McKay, McDole, Whelan, Coulthard, Nile, Baker, Jardine, Glover, Seeker, Cartmer, Thompson, Ricahrdson, Huggon, Falcon, Blain, Scott, Hewitt, Irwin, McChrystal, Millar, McMichan/McMeekan, McKinlay, McLachlan, Gillogy, King, Bryant, Dixon, McCauley, McDavid, Hastie, McLauchlin, Fitzpatrick, Moore, Shanks, Bell, Corrigan, Woods, Mulhall, (Del) Dykes, Allgood

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 13:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply. Yes that is true about the statutory records but I was still in hope of finding something in the parish records nonetheless! Well yes I am of the same mind in the hope that the Irish records exist and are just not online yet but I have found more records today including ones specific to County Down and Kilkeel Parish and so far no Pews/Pughs/Pues. But I won't give up until I am over there anyhow!

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 13:55 BST (UK) »
I have located Thomas Pew and Helen Paterson's 1855 marriage certificate also on Scotland's People just now, so thank you. What a stroke of luck that it mentions the county to give us a little more to work from! I had always wondered how my dad's cousin knew it was County Down in particular (and he is no longer available to ask) so now I know. I had got as far as noting down all of Robert Pew's siblings (including this Thomas) from Census records thereby giving me a rough estimate of their DOBs but not much else. I see that the spelling is 'Pue' on this marriage certificate which lends weight to the theory that the family name may also have been changed from 'Pugh' on arrival in Scotland c. 1840. Makes sense when you consider they were not literate themselves. Thanks again for your help! :)
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