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Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« on: Wednesday 01 July 09 21:04 BST (UK) »
I found my great grand uncle Pat McAuliffe aged 40 in the 1911 Census which was great. He is married to a woman called Kate.

And then another great find i found that there was an older lady Johanna McAuliffe aged 75 living with him. Now i know for a fact this is not his mother as his mother had a different first name and is in the 1911 Census in another household.

Unfortunately it list the relationship as a boarder and that she was of independent means. It does not list her relationship status it has left that blank.

I am hoping she is Pat's aunt and then i would be able to trace her further she could the key to this line of my family.

Anyone have an option why the relationship status field was left blank it really would have helped if that had being filled in.

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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 21:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I don't know why they left it blank- to puzzle us perhaps  ;D
Same thing happened to me in the 1901 census and I know from looking for people on here, the English censuses are full of boarders and lodgers who are relatives   ::)

Could you find her in 1901 - that may help.
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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 21:37 BST (UK) »
Well also in 1911 it doesnt list her as having any children either so i am presuming she was never married.

I used a pay for view site to try find her in 1901 but proved negative.

Hopefully the 1901 Irish will be online by end of year might find her in that without more expense on me.


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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 July 09 22:27 BST (UK) »
It's only a brickwall if you build it into one!

You have a possible lead.....!

You should have their religion so figure out possible churches for them, then check them for Johanna's death record/date, then her cert should give you her details.
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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 July 09 22:36 BST (UK) »
hallmark gave me an idea - looked on Family Search pilot site:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/

I don't know where you found Johanna  but there is this possible death:

1912 Kanturk registration district

(I have a feeling that your interests are Cork??)

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heywood
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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 July 09 22:56 BST (UK) »
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Unfortunately it list the relationship as a boarder and that she was of independent means. It does not list her relationship status it has left that blank

I think the clue might be in the term boarder (or lodger).  It probably means that she was paying money to live there rather than just being part of the family, in which case the relationship would have been shown.

But I could be wrong....

Linda
MOXHAM/MOXAM - Wiltshire & Surrey
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BRETT - Kent & County Durham
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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 July 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
Well finding her death record will tell..
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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 July 09 23:16 BST (UK) »
It may not if the information is as English records - it would only show informant of death not particularly the relationship.
It would be interesting to find out though.
I don't think the relationship would automatlcally be shown either but it does seem fairly safe that she would be a relative since she shares the same name.
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Re: Great find in the census but now hit another brick wall
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 July 09 23:20 BST (UK) »
Was talking about their relationship!!

I wrote;
You should have their religion so figure out possible churches for them, then check them for Johanna's death record/date, then her cert should give you her details.


As in "daughter of"!
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