Wisbech marriage

[JMelchiors]

I know it's all very ambiguous, that's why I'm trying to find some more concrete information.

I've requested assistance from the library in Baltimore, so we'll see if they have a copy of the passenger list.  I've seen Prince Edward Island too, so hopefully we can get some clarification.

Where did you see that Mary Toder married in 1822?

[Nottschick]

The passenger list would be invaluable but who wrote the blurb on the memorial site about William sailing with his two children?  In view of "Mrs Toder" dying in 1872, don't you think it's possible that the mother of William born in Baltimore was a third wife, much younger than William?  I wonder if Mary Toder (Fields) died in the UK before they sailed and William maybe met somone on the voyage.   Or he could have been really bad and deserted Mary, taken the children and made a new life abroad.

I wonder why they sailed from Scotland, hundreds of miles from Wisbech, when they could have sailed from somewhere closer like Liverpool?
So many questions. 

NC. 

[bedfordshire boy]

The marriages of Mary 1822 and Robert in 1832 are on the IGI at www.familysearch.org.  These are the only Toder entries in Maryland, so assume they are the two children who emigrated. They didn't use any middle names though

David

[bedfordshire boy]

I know it's all very ambiguous, that's why I'm trying to find some more concrete information.

You've been working on your ancestors for some time. We've only been looking at them since yesterday. You've made no mention of the findagrave site and the detail contained therein, so it's not unreasonable for us to mention ambiguities without you getting a biit uppity. We're trying to help you.

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,556307.0.html

Your next step if you've not done it already, should be to contact Baltimore Cemetery, or whoever holds the records, to see what exactly the records show. Findagrave seems contain a number of assumptions

David

[JMelchiors]

Hi again everyone,

I've done some more digging, and I have another possibility on who Mary Fields was (I agree with David that Mary Hubbard (nee Hall) was too old to be the mother of William born in the US in 1822).

Again, working backwards:

William Toder married Mary Fields (widowed) on 5 Oct 1806 in Wisbech.

THOMAS Fields was buried in Wisbech 23 Jun 1805.

Thomas Fields, bach, married Mary MELLON, spinster, on 3 Sep 1804 in Wisbech.

According to the passenger list for the Ardent, Mary Toder was 37 years old at the time of crossing to America (1821), which would put her birth year around 1784.  However, I can't find any record of a Mary Mellon born around this time.  Can anyone find a baptism record for her anywhere? 

Does anyone see any errors in my reasoning, or is it fairly reasonable to guess that Mary Mellon is my ancestor?  Thanks for all your help!  And if anyone can find any information that would either confirm or deny this connection, it would be greatly appreciated!

Jessica

[bedfordshire boy]

No, I don't think it's reasonable to guess that Mary Mellon is your ancestor. It's reasonable to guess though that she might be your ancestor.

For reasons that I set out in reply #1 at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,556122.0.html I don't agree that Mary Hubbard was necessarily née Hall. That's a big assumption based on a marriage 50 miles away, where the names happen to fit. William and Mary Hubbard baptised three children 1800-1803 in Wisbech, which means that Mary could still have been born c 1784, But if the child baptised to William and Mary Hubbard in 1792 is from the same couple then Mary Hubbard née ???  can be ruled out as being the Mary Toder who emigrated.

Thomas Fields buried in 1805 was a bricklayer. Were occupations mentioned in any of the other Fields entries in Wisbech? The 1810 Thomas burial was the son of William, probably a child, but not necessarily so.

There are still too many imponderables to be sure that Mary Mellon is your ancestor. It would take more work in Wisbech parish register (via FreeREG) to try to work out the various Fields families, and similarly with the Hubbards. Even then the evidence will be circumstantial, and will eventually come down to the balance of probabilities

David