Who were Jane REID's parents?

[Isabel H]

I’m going round in circles trying to work this out and would welcome some help.

Jane Reid in the parish of Alloa married Walter Snaddon in the par. of Clackmannan on 7 June 1841. They lived in Sauchie, and later Alva.  She died aged 80 on 17 Feb 1900.  On the 1851-1891 censuses her birthplace is given variously as Clackmannan/Alloa/Sauchie. A relative (now deceased) who was researching the family  believed her to have been born in Menstrie. 
Her parents are a mystery. On her husband's death cert. she is referred to as Jane Reid or Beveridge (suggesting a previous marriage, perhaps), while on her own death cert. her name is shown as Jane Reid Snaddon, parents James Thomson and Ann Fyfe.  The informant in each case was one of their sons. I know death cert. info. is not reliable, but where did the sons get these names from?

The IGI shows a marriage for James Thomson & Ann Fyfe on 10 Jul 1826 Clackmannan; Alloa - 6yrs after Jane's probable year of birth, and I would dismiss them as unlikely, probably just a slip of the tongue -  except that the naming pattern in Walter & Jane's family suggests her parents are likely to be James and Agnes.  And just to keep us all guessing, one of the sons has Beveridge as his middle name.

There is no help to be had from Walter & Jane’s wills.

So who was she?

Isabel

[AMBLY]

Hi Isabel

Where are they (Walter and Jane) in the 1841?

Also, on Jane's death cert did it state her mother as:
"Ann THOMSON ms FYFE"


Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

There are a lot of SNADDON, FIFE, REID, BEVERIDGE connections,  aren't there in Alloa!
There was even a Janet Reid SNADON born 1822 in Alloa.

James THOMSON and Ann FIFE - 1841 & 1851 & 1861 Alloa, address: Hall House.
No children with them. No children on IGI.
* on 1841 she's named FIFE age 37 b Clacks. abt 1804 and James THOMSON is 45 & both b Clackm. )
* on 1851 she's 53 (b Alloa abt 1798) and James is 55 b Stirling
* on 1861 she 61 (b Alloa abt 1800 Alloa and James is 68 b Stirling

I wonder if  this couple possibly raised Jane REID/BEVERIDGE, and they were the only parents she ever really knew?

On IGI,  Submitted:
parents: John FYFE and Jean REID, married 1781 Alloa
ISSUE - all Alloa
William 1783
John Finlayson 1785
David 1787
Jean 1789
Thomas 1792
Margaret 1794
Ellis 1798 (male)
Ann 1800  - is this the Ann Fyfe who married James THOMSON......?

Cheers
AMBLY

[ev]

hi AMBLY/isabel

is it possible that the census was taken on the eve of their wedding ?(7th june)
there is(freeCEN - 1841)-
hall house alloa clackmannanshire
jean reid 20 pensioner born clackmannanshire
remarks - age and occupation : as enumerated

if it is her - living on her own and receiving a pension at 20 would maybe
indicate that she was widowed 

AMBLY'S find of james thomson and ann fife at hall house would fit nicely with
the parents on the death certificate and census above

so.....born jane reid(possibly daughter of ann fife) , brought up by james thomson and ann fife , married a beveridge , widowed , married walter snaddon

or.....born jane beveridge and married a reid , then married walter snaddon

maybe 

but if it is your jane reid then your lucky you caught her just before she was
married to walter snaddon 

ev

ps has anyone looked at the 7th june 1841 marriage details on SP

[Isabel H]

ev and Ambly, thanks for your replies.
The Alloa OPR says “8 May 1841. Walter Snadon in this parish and Jane Reid in the parish of Alloa, recorded their names for proclamation of banns and were lawfully married on 7th June following.”

I hadn't found Jean Reid in the 1841 census, but Walter was in Sauchie village with his parents Walter Snaddon and Elizabeth ms Paterson.

Jane's death cert. does say Ann Thomson ms Fyfe.

I have unearthed a possible Beveridge connection too, though it may be less likely, given that Jane and Walter’s son seemd to think their grandparents were Thomson & Fyfe. In the Logie OPR is a Jean Reid b 1st June 1818 to John Reid & Margaret Drummond. The IGI shows their marriage in Tulliallan in Nov 1810. There is another marriage of a Margaret Drummond to John Beveridge in May 1835 Alva/Forteviot,Perth. So IF Margaret Drummond was Jean/Jane's mother, John Beveridge might have been her stepfather.

The name Reid continues down the family – you found one of a number of Jean/Jane Reid Snaddons. If there were a connection to Drummond, Thomson or Fyfe, I’d have expected those names to crop up too as middle names, and to the best of my knowledge they don’t. The names Agnes and James recurr, not Margaret or Ann.

I’ve wrestled with this off and on for years, but I expect you can see why I kept putting it off until I ran out of other easier lines to trace!

[DavidofLincs]

Isabel,

The confusion over her birthplace - Clackmannan/Alloa/Sauchie - could arise partly because for most of the 19th Century the village of Sauchie formed a (detached) part of Clackmannan parish.  In 1891 the parish boundaries were rationalised and Sauchie village became part of Alloa parish.

David.

[Isabel H]

Thanks, David.

That means her birthplace is most likely Sauchie, ruling out the 1818 birth I found in Logie.

Does anyone have any ideas on who might have paid a pension to a 20yr-old woman in 1841? The military?

Isabel