James Knight B1871-D1891

[burnhamclegg]

Yes he was accidently crushed by wagons under archway at Croft Stone Quarry,  I believe he worked as a Stone Quarrier.

Incidentally I have driven past the quarry almost daily for 10-years now

[lizdb]

Thats why the 'Jim' (with the brother Sam) looked the most likely for him.
But that poses the question why did he give a fathers name as William a Salesman when he married? He was with John the Ag lab at age 10, so not as if he was brought up for all his childhood by a William or anything like that. Unless John dies fairly soon after census and a rellie called William takes on the boys, and it is he that James quotes as his dad when he marries.
(Although I though I saw a possible for dad John on that 1891 census a few doors away from the brothers).

[avm228]

Thats why the 'Jim' (with the brother Sam) looked the most likely for him.
But that poses the question why did he give a fathers name as William a Salesman when he married? He was with John the Ag lab at age 10, so not as if he was brought up for all his childhood by a William or anything like that. Unless John dies fairly soon after census and a rellie called William takes on the boys, and it is he that James quotes as his dad when he marries.
(Although I though I saw a possible for dad John on that 1891 census a few doors away from the brothers).

It can't be James ("Jim") Knight b. Huncote, because he's still alive in 1901: RG13/2958/85/7.

[lizdb]

Silly me - not checking!

So we now know there were two James Knights of exactly the same age who were both quarry men in the area.

They dont make it easy for us do they!

[burnhamclegg]

No not made easy at all on this one.

The 2 No. Certificates I requested  Dec Q 1871 in Leicesterhsire (7a 197 & 7a 88) both father not named William.

I thought if I can either get the inquest report that might help, so if Leicester Records Office not got it - where is it?  They said they have 1891, but not this one even with date and name of corroner details (from Death Certificate)

or maybe if can find a burial for him.  I have briefly looked in Narborough & Thurlaston but drawn a blank so far.

Thanks for everyones comments - I will need to look at the fishmonger William in more detail but something doesn't feel right about it!!

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s & Welcome.....Burnhamclegg.

Going back to your original post and picking up on your quote
re Father William……… “ Salesman. “

Have you considered this one ?

1881. Census returns RG. 11. / 3167. / 104. / Pages 13 ~ 14.

Leicester.
No’. 95.Dorset Street..

Page. 13.
William Knight. Head Mar. 58. TRAVELLER……b Leicester.
Mary Ann Wife. 58. Attends to Shop.    b  Leicester.

Page. 14.
Catherine Knight. Dau. 16. Chip Chopper     b Leicester.
JAMES Knight. Son. 14. Chip Chopper.     b Leicester.

BURIAL :~

1891.

All Saints Parish Church.
Thurlaston cum Normanton Turville.

Parish Burial Register No’. 721.

James Knight.
Abode. Thurlaston.
12th. December.
Aged. 20.

1891 Census..... ( Sunday 5th. April )
RG. 12. 2501 / 99. / Page. 12.)

Thurlaston.
4 doors down from the Protestant Chapel

Amelia Chamberlain Aged. 18. is at home with her Father & Mother.
Elisha & Emma

MIKE.

[burnhamclegg]

Mike

I have seen this one, which I put to one side probably as I was looking for James aged 10 & also

1871 Census RG10/3275 Page 21 ~ 22 also has his age 4, so neither matched what I was looking for.

This does look very promising though as burial date is only 3 days after death (09/12/1891) and he was married in Thurlaston 26/11/1891.

I feel my luck may have turned on this one as the Aggregate Co have rang me today and promised to look at their archives too so fingers crossed.

Any help is much appreciated
Thanks

[burnhamclegg]

Have now checked 1881 and does seem to fit, however I still need to trace and obtain his birtch certificate to prove mothers name, and I am not really sure about the 3/4 year difference between Census & Certificates I have.

I have checked births from 1867 to 1873 only 4 James' total in Leicestershire

There are only 2 James' in 1871 (Sep Ashby Zouch 7a 88 and Dec Leicester 7a 197) both rejected by GRO and they don't match fathers name.

1 other Sep Q 1869 Ashby (7a 97)
1 other Sep Q 1867 Market Bosworth (7a 62)

Not sure where to look now - any ideas anyone