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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 11:37 BST (UK) »
1851

Marylebone or as they have written it Mary Le Bone
10a Church Place
John Blake 47  head mar. (cant make out occ.) b. Kent
Mary 50  wife b. paddington as are all children
James 16  son
Frederick 15  son
John  10  son
Alfred  8  son
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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 11:42 BST (UK) »
On Free BMD there is a birth for John Lake, East London, JAS 1842

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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi all  :)

The birth found by Elizabeth seems to match this christening:

John Lake, 20 Sep 1842, St Botolph Bishopsgate, London
Father John, mother Elizabeth


This looks like the John/Elizabeth family in 1851:

1851
HO107/1542 636 8
St Matthew Bethnal Green, Middlesex
5 New Street

John Lake, head, 34, Cordwainer, b. Hampstead
Elizabeth, wife, 33, Shoe Binder, b. Bethnal Green
Elizabeth, dau, 14, Shoe Binder, b. Bethnal Green
Mary Ann, dau, 11, Shoe Binder, b. Bishopsgate
John, son, 7, Home, b. St Lukes
Robert, son, 4, b. Bethnal Green
Jane, dau, 6 mo, b. do.
Bridget Hamilton, lodger, wid, 27, Shoe Binder, b. St James Westminter
   
(Makes one wonder whether the first boy died)
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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 August 09 09:35 BST (UK) »
thanks for all the replies everyone, according to the census john was born in paddington, and he lived in east end after his marriage and died there as he is buried in tower hamlets cemetary.  so not sure if the john/elizabeth family is correct. or maybe paddington is,nt where he was born ? aaggghh so confusing lol
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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 August 09 09:39 BST (UK) »
thats a brilliant find Tati but its hard to tell if its them becuase of the reasons Sophie gave earlier however maybe Sophie should work on this family to see if she can rule them out or in further.


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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 August 09 09:42 BST (UK) »
hi, i had found this family before tati and toni, but dismissed them solely on the fact that he was,nt down as being born in paddington!! i assumed the census is always correct on such things but may be not?? :-\
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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 20 August 09 09:51 BST (UK) »
Census information is very far from being always accurate - which of course doesn't at all mean the John/Elizabeth couple are the ones we're looking for!

I think you really need the birth cert for one of the children to find out Jane's maiden name, and from there (hopefully) identify the John Lake/Jane marriage and get the cert to find out what John says about his father

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Re: where did they come from!!
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 20 August 09 09:58 BST (UK) »
thanks tati will do that. hopefully the mystery will be solved!
duncan, liverpool and scotland
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hopkins, middlesex and wales
cannell and many more isle of man