Cheal Family Sussex

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Hethmar

Wow - a voice from the past - great to hear from you again.

Well done on the research - glad to have helped you out in some small way.

I love the compliments - keep em coming, Please

Hope you are managing to put 'flesh on the bones' of your ancestors, rather than just lists of names and dates.

Its great to see you are having all round success

Well Done - Proud on yer lass

Chris in 1066Land

[hethmar]

Thank you Master

Yes, Its been brilliant Chris, and it has made me realise how real these people were, not just names.  Even closer to me, I appreciate my own parents much more than before, knowing the history that brought them all the way to today.

In actual fact, I have become very involved with the church where about 10 of my Horsteads are buried.  It was amazing to realise how close I was to them with no knowledge at all that they would have had to pass my front door to get to town.

The village has just started its own historical society and embarrasingly, I am held quite in awe in that out of all those there I am the only one with flesh and bones (well bones anyway) in the village.

I am back to a John Boniface and Tomsyne Collyer married in Hailsham about 1576 I believe in my Sussex line.  Dad was 90 on Thursday last and it was great to present him with a tree back that far.

I am concentrating on blood lines only as one could end up with many thousands of names otherwise.  Had a bit of luck in that a lady in the states contacted me to say her Francis Boniface her GGFx3 was the brother of my Jane (the one you helped track down).  It is very interesting as a lot of the family went over there in the early 1800's and the names of the towns sound just like Sussex!

Many thanks for your help Chris, you were an inspiration.

[hethmar]

Chris, I wonder if you could help me a bit moe

I have been trawling through the family tree of someone on GR and getting quite confused as they have my Reuben (in the 1841 and 1851 census) dying at age 1!  And lots of other confusing stuff.

What I wanted to see if you could help me clarify is the parents of the Stephen and Isabella Boniface shown as nephew and neice to Reuben and living with him in 1841 and 1851.   As you may recall that are shown as Isabella, age 23, born Pevensey and Stephen age 24 born Chiddingly. 

Are there any parish transcriptions on site that may help find who their parents were.  Why are they with relatives from age 10, do you think both parents died?

Sorry to take liberties.  I was feeling quite secure about all this until I looked at the tree of the person on GR and it has thrown me a bit!

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hethmar

I am going to be in the East Sussex Records Office on Wednesday / Thursday and Friday this week doing some research

Would you like to list exactly what you want clarifying, etc so that I have a clear mandate of what I am looking for/ researching.

Thanks

Chris in 1066Land

[hethmar]

Bless you Chris.  I felt quite depressed by this other persons records.  But I am sure that mine must be right as I have two census for Reuben - he couldnt have died at 1 year old!

What I would be very grateful for is if you could find the parentage of Stephen Boniface apparently born 1827/28 in Chiddingly and his sister Isabella born a year later in Pevensey.

They are shown as Reuben's niece and nephew in both the 1841 and 1851 census.

Many thanks

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there Hethmar

Result from the East Sussex Record Office.

Bapt at Chiddingly
June 10th 1827, Boniface Stephen Henry, son of George and Frances, Labourer

Sorry, no trace of Isabella at either Chiddingly or Pevensey

But I did spot the following in Chiddingly:

Marriage
April 12th 1826, George Boniface of this parish & Frances Dunk of this Parish by Banns.

Baptism
May 17th 1829, John Boniface, son of George and Frances, Labourer

Hope the above helps in your research.

Chris in 1066Land


PS - I am at the record Office again tomorrow and Friday - anything else you want, please post before 9.15am, will check messages before I leave for the ESRO

[hethmar]

Hi Chris   What a star you are.  Shame Isabella didnt show, wonder why that is.  Shown as Pevensey on census.

I have heard of this George and Frances before, brother of Reuben but why do you think the kids may have got dumped with their Grandparents? 

I know you must be up to your eyes in requests and your own work, but if you do get time,  I would be interested in finding the parents of George Cheale born c1730 - married to Anne Rowley on 9.3.1752 in West Dean.  I have one child for them, Thomas Cheal bap 1.11.1761 in Seaford.

So, only if you get time, please:

Parents of George Cheale born c1730 West Dean?
Children of George Cheale and Anne Rowley from 1752 - West Dean/Seaford.

Please dont worry if you are up to your eyes.

Very many thanks Chris.

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hethmar

Printed off your message

Will have a go tomorrow

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there Hethmar

I know you must be up to your eyes in requests and your own work, but if you do get time,  I would be interested in finding the parents of George Cheale born c1730 - married to Anne Rowley on 9.3.1752 in West Dean.  I have one child for them, Thomas Cheal bap 1.11.1761 in Seaford.

The Bishops Transcripts for Seaford only went up to 1725, so could not check for a George born 1730 - No registers are available.

Looked through the Bishops Transcripts from 1632 - 1754 found the following (all listed in same book)
Marriage - 1751 - 9th March, Married George Cheale & Ann Relly of ye parish
Bapt          1751 - June 21 William, son of George & Ann Cheale
                 1752 - 9th Mar, Married George Cheale & Ann Rawlly of this parish
 (entry appears twice)
                 1754 - Jan 27th, Baptized Mary, daughter of George & Ann Cheale
                 1754 - April 3rd buried Mary Cheale (does not say if child or adult - but probably the same as above entry

West Dean - Cheale Burials 1813 - 1871

24.8.1815, Thomas Cheale aged 54
18.01.1820, Barbara aged 4 years
01.11.1828, Rebecca aged 11 days
01.09.1832, Eliz aged 7 years
11.03.1833, Mary aged 44 years
29.01.1836, Sarah, aged 2 years
08.02.1836, William, aged 8 years
21.02.1836, Charles, aged 10 years
21.05.1838, Mary, aged 16 years
27.03.1843, George, aged 50 years
29.10.1845, David, aged 25 years
14.02.1847, Sarah, aged 52 years
16.03.1860, Thomas, aged 71 years
13.10.1866, Samuel, aged 2 years
15.01.1868, Jane, aged 76 years
14.08.1871, Albert James, aged 6 months
24.08.1871, Edward aged 77 years

Hope you can place some of them in your tree

Chris in 1066Land