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birth - Barbara Stewart GARDINER
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 12:26 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

This time i am looking for some birth information for Barbara Stewart GARDINER. From the 1881 scottish census she was born Beith, Ayrshire, Scotland around 1854. She married Hugh MORRISON in 1874

Would like to find out her parents names and actual date of birth (if possible) and did she have any siblings

I really do appreciate any help and information people find and pass on

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Re: birth - Barbara Stewart GARDINER
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 September 09 13:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Ronica

The following looks like a probability, and  is a combination of Census,  & Extracted entries (ie :taken from actual parish records, and therefore tend to be reliable) from the IGI.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl  (Beith Ayrshire 1841/1851)

MARRIAGE (Extracted):
Matthew GARDINER & Barbara STEWART
10 May 1806, Beith Ayrshire

1841: Newton - Beith, Ayrshire
Parish 581 - ED 4 - Pg 2
Matthew GARDNER 50, Dealer - Y
Barbara  45 , Thread Winder- Y
John 20, Cotton HLW - Y
Jean 20, O. Sewer - Y
Thomas 15, Cotton HLW - Y
(Ages of people age 15+ in 1841 were (supposed to be)  rounded down to nearest 5 years - ie: someone age 24, would round to 20; someone ages 38 would round to 35)

MARRIAGE (Extracted):
Thomas GARDINER & Margaret McINTYRE
5 May 1849, Beith

1851: 5 Laighroad  - Beith, Ayrshire
Parish: 581, ED 4, pg 34
Head: Thomas GARDNER 24, Weaver, b Beith
Wife: Margaret McINTYRE 24, Weavers Wife, b Kintyre, Argyllshire
Son: William GARDNER  1, b Beith
(it was quite common to see married women, and widows, using their maiden name on Scottish census)

1861: Bunswynd - Beith, Ayrshire
Parish: 581, ED 3, pg 23
Head: Thomas GARDNER 38, Labourer,  b Beith
Wife: Margaret 34, b Cardol, Argyleshire
Son: William 13, b Beith
Dau: Janet 10, b Beith
Dau: Agnes 10, b Beith
Dau: Barbara 8, b Beith
Son: Malcolm 4, b Beith
Dau: Catherine 10 mths, b Beith

1871: Townend - Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Parish: 596, ED 5, pg 6
Head: Thomas GARDNER 47, Platelayer , b Beith
Wife: Margaret 45, b Cariasiad? Ayrshire?
Son: William 22, Flax Dresser, b Cloghan?? Ayrshire
Dau: Agnes 20, Flax Mill Worker, b Beith
Dau: Barbara 18, Flax Mill Worker, b Beith
Son: Malcolm 14, Flax Mill Worker, b Beith
Dau: Catherine 11, Scholar, b Beith
Dau: Margaret 8, Scholar, b Beith
Dau: Bella 4, b Beith
Gran-dau: Barbara 2, b Kilbirnie Ayrshire

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AMBLY
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Re: birth - Barbara Stewart GARDINER
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 September 09 14:22 BST (UK) »
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
SCOTLANDS PEOPLE - free to register, free to search (to a point) and pay to download images of actual BDM & Census etc.

Civil Registration in Scotland began 1855. So prior to this date you will be unlikely to find details of parents on a Parish Record of a marriage. You may or may not get the maiden name of a mother off the parish record of a baptism/birth.

The 1874 marriage on Scotlands People  of Barbara Stewart GARDINER to Hugh MORRISON in Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
would should confirm the names of Barbara's parents, incl mms of her mother.

The death of Thomas GARDNER, assuming it was in Scotland?, would confirm the names of his parents

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AMBLY
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Re: birth - Barbara Stewart GARDINER
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 September 09 15:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly :)

Although i must admit i am a bit confused  ???

So what your suggesting is that Thomas GARDNER & Margaret McINTYRE are the parents of my Barbara?

Secondly Thomas GARDNER is the son of Matthew GARDINER and Barbara STEWART?

i tried to follow your links to familysearch and freecen but wasn't really sure what i was searching for

In your second post you talk about SCOTLANDS PEOPLE (which i hadn't heard of before now). I'll have a look at that tomorrow - i think my brain has taken in as much as it's going to today but i do appreciate your help. I'll let you know how i go
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Re: birth - Barbara Stewart GARDINER
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 September 09 14:34 BST (UK) »
Had a great day searching SCOTLANDS PEOPLE website and found and downloaded the image of the marriage of Barbara Stewart GARDINER and Hugh MORRISON.

Plus there was another Scottish marriage i had on my list so i found that one while i was at it too!! I had a great day - i added parents to 4 different people  ;D

I didn't find the death for Thomas GARDNER but will have another look another day. Like you said he will only be there if he died in Scotland so i will keep that in mind

Thank you very very very much Ambly for your helpful hints (i know my brother is researching some Scottish families too so i'll tell him about the Scotlands People website)

I still haven't quite worked out how you got the info from familysearch and freecen @ rootsweb but i'm going to have another look now

Just wanted to share what i had found so far :)
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Re: birth - Barbara Stewart GARDINER
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 September 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
Have just been having a look FreeCEN - reckon i'm gonna be spending a bit of time there in the next few days. Thanks Ambly  ;D
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