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Mary Ann Holman born ~1815 Naseby
« on: Friday 04 March 05 20:15 GMT (UK) »
A Mary Ann Holman was born in July 1807 in Naseby but this makes her eight years too old to be my great great grandmother.  Is it possible that this one died and another daughter was christened Mary Ann.  I think her parents were Christopher and Elizabeth Holman.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. ???

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Re: Mary Ann Holman born ~1815 Naseby
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 05 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter

Welcome to RootsChat!  ;)

What makes you sure the Mary Ann you refer to is 8 years too old to be your gg grandmother?

It is possible that a child could be named the same as a sibling who had died - I have certainly experienced that in my tree.

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Re: Mary Ann Holman born ~1815 Naseby
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 March 05 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your answer and my reasons are:
 
1.  In the 1861 census, she said she was born in Nas(e)by.
2.  She named her firstborn son, Christopher presumably after her father as it was first occurrence in family. The parents of the Mary Ann Holman born in Naseby in 1807 were Christopher and Elizabeth.
3.  She was married in St. Helen's Cripplegate in 1836 giving a likely birth year of 1817.
4.  In the 1861 census, she gave her birth year as 1817.
5.  In the 1881 census, she gave her birth year as 1817
6.  From the death certificate, her birth year was 1813.
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Re: Mary Ann Holman born ~1815 Naseby
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 March 05 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter

Thanks for that explanation.  I wouldn't abandon the possibility that they are the same person though.  I have come across greater discrepancies in dates than these.  But then again it could be a second child named the same as one who died as you mentioned before.

What was the name of your Mary's husband?  What year did she die?

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Re: Mary Ann Holman born ~1815 Naseby
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 March 05 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Found these baptisms at Naseby:

Mary Ann d Christopher & Elizabeth HOLMAN born 27 July 1807 bapt 1 May 1808

William s Christopher & Elizabeth HOLMAN bapt 12 May 1811

Christopher s Christopher & Elizabeth HOLMAN bapt 2 April 1812

John s Christopher & Elizabeth HOLMAN of Naseby, farmer, bapt 7 Nov 1814

Didn't seem to be any more children baptised at Naseby after John.

Couldn't find another Mary or a burial record within these dates  ???

We all lie about our age from time to time don't we? ;)

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Re: Mary Ann Holman born ~1815 Naseby
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 March 05 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes indeed Byron, we do lie about our age, but Mary Ann seems to have done it consistently which is unusual for liars.  Anyway, could somebody please check the inhabitants of the Christopher Holman household in the 1851 Naseby census as I cannot find any trace of Mary Ann. ???Peter