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Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« on: Friday 18 September 09 22:16 BST (UK) »
Hi there :)

The sister of my great-grandfather, Nelly Henrietta L Hilsden (b.1878 Bucks) travelled to New York, and married a man named John Tudor. 

I have her on a passenger list (Canadian I think...) in 1920, then in the US fed Census in 1920 living in Jamaica, Queens New York.  I believe she actually got married in 1921, but have no marriage record for her.

John Tudor apparently died around 1960 (have no record of that) and Nelly died in Canada, I have no date for that either!

Nellie's sister Selina lived in Canada, as did several cousins and in his later life, her father as well.

Family legend suggests, that on one trip back to the UK, Nelly was afraid for her  and her husbands life.  Although I noted the residence and dates of the US census, I have lost the copy doc I had from Ancestry...is anyone cen help me with that.

But can anyone help point me in directions that would discover more about this couple?  Sadly they had no children.

Thanks.

Daisy Loo
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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 September 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
Passenger list of US citizens on the SS Georgic from Southampton 5 Aug. 1938 to New York 14 Aug. 1938

Tudor, Nellie H., age 50, female, married, US passport 502318, naturalized by marriage, address in US - 85-70 188th St., Hollis, L.I. 

Today, Hollis is considered part of Queens, not Long Island.

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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 September 09 03:01 BST (UK) »
British Columbia, Canada Death Index

Name: Nellie Tudor

Age:   85 (born approx. 1879)
Death Date: 29 Apr 1964
Place of Death: Saanichton
Registration #:   1964-09-006311
bca #: B13266
gsu #:2033689

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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 September 09 03:05 BST (UK) »
1930 Queens, Queens, New York

John W Tudor 55 immigration year 1893
Nellie H Tudor 52 immigration year 1920
Anna F Brown 12 granddaughter

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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 September 09 03:13 BST (UK) »
John William Tudor born April 10, 1876

Occupation carpenter

Naturalized on July 20, 1906

Date of Arrival: Sept 1, 1894

Address of Naturalized person: 221 Milford Street, Brooklyn, NY


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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 September 09 03:18 BST (UK) »
1910 Brooklyn, Kings, New York

John Tudor 35
Annie Tudor 33
Annie Tudor 10
James Tudor 9
Edna Tudor 7

1920 Brooklyn, Kings, New York

John Tudor 44 widow
John Tudor 19
Edna Tudor 15

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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 September 09 10:36 BST (UK) »
Oh. My. Goodness!
Thank you both for this info...
Merjones....that's a LOT of info...so he was married before, and had children before....

Can you tell me where you found all this info?  This is brilliant...no sign of their skeleton though...and if he was just a carpenter...can't see nything sinister in that! lol

Thank you very very much :)  :-*
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BARNETT- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset HILSDEN/HILLSDEN/HILLSDON- Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Canada PRESTIDGE/PRESTAGE- Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Islington PINNIGER/PINEGAR/PINNEGAR - Wiltshire       Brambleby - Kent, Middlesex     
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Re: Can anyone help me rattle a skeleton? HILSDEN/TUDOR in New York
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 September 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
Hi there again :)

With help of my sisters cc I have joined the ancestry world for a time, and I have found most of the above records myself, so thank you for that. 

I have a couple more questions...if anyone can help:

Where would I be able to find their marriage record?  In the 1930 census, it records that she married at the age of 43, which would mean she married John Tudor in 1921.  However, when she first came over she went to regina SK, Canada to her sister (1920 ships list).  So no border crossing to be found either?

Are there any other records available anywhere else, that could help me build up a picture after 1930?

I cannot understand why she went to BC Canada and died there...when family lived in other areas of Canada quite a distance from BC.

Thanks very much.

Daisy Loo

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BARNETT- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset HILSDEN/HILLSDEN/HILLSDON- Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Canada PRESTIDGE/PRESTAGE- Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Islington PINNIGER/PINEGAR/PINNEGAR - Wiltshire       Brambleby - Kent, Middlesex     
LEACH- Norfolk   BUTTERWORTH - Lancashire   OTTON - Somerset  LAWRENCE - Berkshire