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Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« on: Tuesday 20 October 09 12:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am looking for a baptism please, for :

John BIRD born c1787 in East Dereham, Norfolk.

1841 - 1867 John is a Bricklayer living in Bermondsey, Surrey.
Married to Ann nee? born Bermondsey.
I have them on the 1841-1861 Census.

Thank you
Reyz.
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please COMPLETED
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am looking for a baptism please, for :

John BIRD born c1787 in East Dereham, Norfolk.

1841 - 1867 John is a Bricklayer living in Bermondsey, Surrey.
Married to Ann nee? born Bermondsey.
I have them on the 1841-1861 Census.

Thank you
Reyz.
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please COMPLETED
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 October 18 16:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am looking for a baptism please, for :

John BIRD born c1787 in East Dereham, Norfolk.

1841 - 1867 John is a Bricklayer living in Bermondsey, Surrey.
Married to Ann nee? born Bermondsey.
I have them on the 1841-1861 Census.

Thank you
Reyz.
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 October 18 07:43 BST (UK) »
There is a John Bird and Ann baptizing children St Mary Magdeline Southwark.

Elizabeth 28 July 1811 born 22 June 1811
Mary Ann 11 September 1814 no birth date address Long Lane
John 20 April 1817 born 21 March 1817  Long Lane
Sarah 21 May 1820 born 21 June 1819 Tyers Gateway

Caroline 26 May 1822   Tyers Gateway
Benjamin, 10th or 13th August 1826 born 22 May 1826  Tyers Gateway
William 21 March 1830  Tyers Gateway
Elizabeth 14 July 1833 born 21 April 1833 Tyers Gateway

Father on all entries is a bricklayer

There is a John Bird married Ann Jennings 8 January 1795 St Olave Bermondsey,

ADDED this cannot be the right one if he was born 1787.

John Bird widower married Ann Jackson widow 30 May 1820 at St Olave Bermondsey.

The first Ann would have died after the birth of Sarah 1819, she was baptised (Sarah) a few days before her father married for the 2nd time.


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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 October 18 08:00 BST (UK) »
From Freereg East Dereham
John Bird born 25 October 1772, bap 9 November 1772 of Charles and Elizabeth

John Bird born 22 January 1772 bap 19 April 1772 of John and Frances, notes have 1st son

ADDED if one these is correct then its possible to marry 1795

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 October 18 08:03 BST (UK) »
Hello
Thank you for the input.  I have not been on here for a while so need to go over the Notes. But from memory I have the same children but have John Bird married to an Ann Thurnell. 

Very interesting about the other Ann's though, will go over the old notes and check. 

Thank you for your help
Reyz
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 October 18 08:04 BST (UK) »
Just seen your second reply.
Very interesting!
Many thanks
Reyz
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 October 18 08:14 BST (UK) »
For those following this
John Bird married Ann Thurnell 31 August 1810 St Mary Newington witnesses are Benjamin Bird and Sarah Bird.

This fits with the first child born 1811 and he named children Benjamin and Sarah

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Re: Baptism c1787 East Dereham BIRD please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 October 18 08:35 BST (UK) »
That goes along with what I have on my Notes.  Its The Baptism I dont have for sure but looks promising!
Thank you again
Reyz
Essex  :  Lodge Wheal
London UK : Bird Bogg (Lightermen) Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry Spencer.
Forest of Dean Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Herefordshire : Hope  Price  Protheroe
Somerset  :  Hughes  Lippiatt
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon and Brynmawr -  Hughes Smith
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope  Lloyd  Long Protheroe 
Census information is Crown Copyright from  www.nationalarchives.gov.