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Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« on: Monday 02 November 09 18:56 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 census for Botesdale notes a couple of my relatives as being at the Ling House Of Industry.

Now, whilst I'm aware that this is all likely to be part of the Hartismere Union (as the rest of the family was at Eye Workhouse), I'm just wondering where this House of Industry was.

I don't know Botesdale itself but I can easily visit.. but i've failed to find mention of it on the web - including in Google Books.

I was wondering whether anyone knows where it was/is, as I've located the site of the Eye Workhouse.
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Re: Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 November 09 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrew, My grandmother lived in Botesdale .I dont remember any Ling house there, it is a small village maybe it was demolised.
I notice you have Barber + Cooper in your names .My Grandmother was Amelia Barber born Hoxne her mother was Eliza Cooper Father William Barber. Any connection ?.Regards Tony.
Suffolk =Banham,Barber,Bullock,Crane,Collins,Driver,Garnham,Holland,Huggins, Kerry, Kerridge,Peake,Pyett ,Sterry Huggins,Mears,Wilby,Whistlecraft,Youngs.
Norfolk=Peake,Barber.
Greenwich=Fuller, Carter,Dean,Page.
Deptford=Huggins, Nidd,Strutt.
Hindley,Lancashire=Pyett, Ranicar, Wood,Holland,Whittle, Byers,Boardman,Lawles.
Yorkshire=Huggins,Archer.
Scotland=Crawford,Holm.

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Re: Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrew, there is quite a lot of info and pcitures about Hartismere union & Eye workhouse at the workhouses site:

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

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Re: Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 08:28 GMT (UK) »
it does mention a seperate Hartismere school and i wonder whether this took the name of a headmaster maybe??
there is mention of Ling house on this blog - may be yours???:

http://familytreeuk.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/the-workhouse/

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Re: Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 20:12 GMT (UK) »
it does mention a seperate Hartismere school and i wonder whether this took the name of a headmaster maybe??
there is mention of Ling house on this blog - may be yours???:

http://familytreeuk.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/the-workhouse/

Diddy

hi Diddy,

that's an idea - i should be able to find a list of employees.

indeed it is - good to see search engines working well - i only wrote that blog entry yesterday evening!

thanks
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Researching: BABBIDGE, BAILEY, BARBER, BARKER, BISHOP, BOULTER, BOWERS, BRIGHTWELL, BURNELL, CLARKE, COOPER, CROSS, DEWEY, DEWSBURY, FLOWER, FREEMAN, GAWTHROP, GIDDINGS, GIGNER, GILBERT, GILLIONS, GOLTRIP, GOTHARD, HARRISON, HAWKINS, IRONS, JEFFERY, LEVITT, MARTIN, MODEN, NEWMAN, NEWELL, ONG, TALL, TAYLOR, TINGEY, WHITEHEAD, YARROW.

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Re: Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 00:28 GMT (UK) »
Hartismere Hundred/Union had its workhouses at Eye and at Wortham.

Wortham is a village with a huge green in the middle (open common land).  One of the parcels of land is Long Green and the other is The Ling.

In 1844 John Helsden was the governor at The Workhouse.

There are many references to this in 'Parson and People in a Suffolk Village, Richard Cobbold's Wortham 1824-77' which was pub a couple of years ago and edited by David Dymond it was put together and researched by a group, who were known as the 'Worthies' - all respected historians in the county.

It's a bit late now, but I will have a look through in the morning to see if I can find anything further to help.


If the rain stops, I will also be going to Boxford to take some photographs for a researcher.

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Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Hartismere Union - the Ling House of Industry
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 00:48 GMT (UK) »
I thought I would just check Peter's workhouses web site as I thought he would have information on this House of Industry on The Ling in Wortham -

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Hartismere/HartismereSchool1881.shtml

and sure enough he has a list of

Residents of Union District School, Wortham Ling, Wortham, Suffolk taken from the 1881 census


He also records that in 1844 the Hartismere Union opened a separate school at Wortham at the location of the former Wortham parish workhouse.

The school provided accommodation for around 85 children, with boys being employed in gardening and spade husbandry.
Girls were taught sewing and general domestic work fitting them for domestic service.

Really am off now
night night all

Pat
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?