Hi ev
Thank you for your reply, that will be him.
Oh that looks very promising, yes the same family are down as Kay in 81. I am assuming (I know one shouldn't) that the name has been transcribed incorrectly in 1871, no amount of searching can find them. As they were perforners maybe they didint bother. Have found them in 41, 51, 61, 81, 91, 01 and 11, But no sign in 1871 will just keep trying.
Thank you once again for your help.