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Joshua Brooks-Strange indeed.
« on: Friday 04 December 09 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Whilst I was looking for my Martha Beech in 1901,I was curious about an Elizabeth Brooke given as a Boarder who was staying with Martha in 1901,and given as born in Stoke in c 1878.In what must be a rareity for the time it seems her Mother remarried whilst her Father was still alive!In 1881 she is given as the daughter of a Joshua Brookes and his Wife "Lavina".Other children are given as Joshua born c 1874 and Arthur born c 1880.In 1891 Elizabeth and Arthur are given as the Stepchildren of a William Payne given as born in Bewdley Worcestershire and his Wife Lavinia given as born in Burslem in c 1840.However Joshua(c1874) is living with his Father in 1891,his Father as in 1881 given as a Butcher.The strange thing is though,Joshua Senior is still shown as married.Its a very strange state of affairs!Explanations please?????????

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Re: Joshua Brooks-Strange indeed.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 December 09 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Is there a marriage for Joshua and Lavinia on freebmd? 

If not - Is there one for Lavinia and William Payne

She may not have married Joshua,  or if she did - she may have left Joshua to go and live with William

Freebmd has practically seized up at the moment so I can't check
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Re: Joshua Brooks-Strange indeed.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 December 09 17:58 GMT (UK) »
There is an 1889 marriage in Stoke for William Payne - Lavinia Tunnicliff on same page Staffs BMD shows it was at St Marks Shelton
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Re: Joshua Brooks-Strange indeed.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 December 09 18:04 GMT (UK) »
1861 shows Lavinia Tunnicliff b 1841 Burslem living with mother in law as follows

Elizabeth Tunnicliff 63 b Tunstall
William  22 son b Tunstall
Lavinia 20 daughter in law b Burslem
Henry  8 Months b Hanley
Jane Wade 31 dtr married
RG9 Piece 1934 Folio 103 Page 48

William married Lavinia Hargreaves in 1860 at Wolstanton St Margaret
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Re: Joshua Brooks-Strange indeed.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 December 09 18:23 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 - Joshua is Josiah aged 30 single and in lodgings in Hanley

I suspect Lavinia never married Joshua

Deaths March qtr 1868 
 
William Tunnicliff aged 29  Stoke on Trent  6b 114
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Re: Joshua Brooks-Strange indeed.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 December 09 18:40 GMT (UK) »
I must confess I haven't found a marriage for Joshua and Lavinia,you did well to find him in 1871 I couldn't!The only time up to 1881 is in 1841 showing as the son of Joshua and Elizabeth Brooks with two sisters Mary and Olive.

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Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk