GILPIN family Seagoe Armagh Ireland

[Macka]

I am researching my Gilpin forebears. My G Grandfather came from Belteagh Seagoe Armagh. His name is Richard Gilpin and he was born on 4/4/1850 to Richard Gilpin a farmer and his wife Deborah Robinson. He had at least 2 brothers Matthew born Portadown  abt 1854, a Samuel James b 12/4/1864 in Lurgan and a sister Elizabeth B Portadown in 1855 who married a Youngston Somerville at Livingstone Portadown in 1877 before emigrating to Canada. After the death of her husband in Canada she joined brother Richard who had migrated to Australia, in 1881 with his wife Mary Elizabeth McConnell from Newtownards co Down. 
I would appreciate any help and  info on any of the families.
Macka

[kingskerswell]

Macka,

         Welcome to roots chat. Richard Gilpin married Deborah Robinson on 16 July 1847 in Seagoe Church of Ireland, Lurgan.

I am confused by the information in my sources for Elizabeth Gilpin. Emerald ancestors gives the marriage of Elizabeth Gilpin to Thomas Emerson in 1877. It also gives the marriage of Youngson (sic)
Somerville to Elizabeth Emerson in Moira Methodist Church in 1886
 The Record Search section of www.familysearch.org shows the marriages of Elizabeth Gilpin in 1877 and 1886. It also records the marriages of Youngson Somerville and Elizabeth Emerson in 1886. The really confusing thing is that all three are in Lurgan registration District and are recorded on the same page of the Register, Vol1 Page 813.
The record search section also records the death of Youngson Somerville in 1907 in Lurgan and gives his birth as 1834 and an earlier marriage in 1855.
    It is possible that there were two different men!!

Regards

[KatC]

A Somerville researcher found that both Elizabeth and  Youngston had previous marriages, the Emerson marriage you mention and a Dynes marriage.  I think this is part of another Rootschat posting with subsequent findings.

Richard b. abt 1821 has baptism #94 at Seagoe and the page is not included in the PRONI microfilm.  Is the page missing at the hurch? 

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   I have matched the Dynes marriage to Youngson Somerville in 1855. The ladies name was Elizabeth.

Regards

[Macka]

Hi everyone Happy New Year.
I don't know the protocol. do I answer everyone separately or do a general reply about all the info, which I admit has floored me.
Have sought out that Somerville post and will take it and yours away to take in and then I'll come back.
I have a copy of Elizabeth Gilpin Somerville's death cert from here in Australia. Only the one marriage to Somerville is mentioned. I see that a lot of the Somervilles went to Canada. The only indication that Eliz and Youngson went to Canada was in a family History written on Richard Gilpin and the intermarriage with Misfeld family here in Oz. Maybe they stayed in Ireland.
Thanks for everything so far,will come back later with of course more questions
Bye Macka

[Macka]

Printed off info and had a read thru. also printed off the Somerville posts, which is a saga..
This is what I ended with, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Richard Gilpin b 1821 died 1902 married Deborah Robinson 16/7/1847 in Seagoe Church of Ireland Lurgan.

(If the church page was there I wud have been able to find his parents Correct?)

His daughter Elizabeth born 1855 married 1.  Thomas Emmerson in 1877
2. Youngston Somerville  at Moira Methodist in 1886

Youngston 1834- 1907 was previously married to Elizabeth Dynes in 1855.

Is there any indication when Thos. Emmerson and Elizabeth Dynes died?

I think there must be more Gilpin children as the first I have listed is Richard in 1850. Matthew 1854 Elizabeth in 1855 then a gap to Samuel James in 1864.

Any suggestions how to track them down and details on Deborah Robinson. found a Deborah Gilpin born 1834 died 1894. Seems too young to have married in 1847.

My grandmother filled in Eliz Somervilles death details, now I play the whatif game. Whatif she did marry at 22 (as stated on cert) and that was to Emmerson and then Somerville later. Maybe that was the only one my Granny knew about.

If somerville died in 1907 and She came to Australia in June 1908 that wud fit in. Don't know where Canade comes into the equation. Maybe a family furphey.

I'm going to tap into the Sommerville discussion and see what eventuates there.

Thank you all for your help and if any more Gilpins or Robinsons pop up, wud love to know about them.  Always seems more info on the male side.

I found familysearch from your hints and will check the IGI.
Macka

[davey.h]

Dynes married jane ?
Childrew
1 William born  24/12/1767
2 Dynes born  9/3/1766
3 Thomas born 19/7/1767
4 Henry born  17/12/1768
5 George born 17/12/1768
6 jane born  4/12/1771
7 Richard 4/7/1773 married elizabeth

7a Isabel 18/6/09
7b Margaret 16/5/15
7c Judith 26/6/18
7d Richard 15/4/22 married  Deborah Robinson 16/7/47
7e William ver ? married  Eliza jane gilpin 2/10/56 her father was james

7d1 Samuel ja 12/4/64
7d2 Richard 12/4/64
7d3 Mary 23/2/62
7d4 Isabella 14/4/61
7d5 John 27/2/59
7d6 elizabeth 30/12/55
7d7 Matthew 31/7/53
7d8 Eliza jane 10/8/51
7e1 Jane 8/10/65
7e2 richard 20/1/71
7e3 Elizabeth 1/12/73
7e4 james 15/5/76

[Macka]

Hi Davey H,
thanks for your post. Just to clarify I have it right.
Dynes Gilpin ? married a June ?
have the 7 kids u mentioned.
Their son Richard 1773 married Elizabeth?
have 4 children (can u clarify the William and Eliza Jane bit?
The Richard 15/4/22 marries Deborah robinson 16/07/1847
has the following family
Eliza Jane 1851
Matthew 1853
Elizabeth 1858
John 1859
Isabell 1861
Mary 1862
richard and Samuel 1864
.
I have the death cert for Richard here in Aust and he wud have been born 1849/50.Could he have been born then in this family grouping.
re
uu 

[davey.h]

this information is taken from the seageo parish records one of the main churches of that area
according to the records richard and elizabeth william maried elizabeth jane dynes in 2/10/56 and  they had 4 children