information on the Park Family

[marine]

Dear Sir.
          I have been trying to find the Marriage cert of a James / Mary  Murray Park  I pick them up in Liverpool in the 1881 census he was age 57 and she was age 51 they came from Aberdour in Aberdeenshire it's now called New Aberdour I have been running around from pillar to post and still nothing any information would be greatly Appreciated
                                         Thank you
                                                  Jim

[ev]

hi Jim 

looking at possible births for children were the parents james park and mary
kerr married 1852 ayr(IGI) ?

francis murray park born 1855 ayr
grace murray park born 1857 glasgow lanark
john kerr park born 1862 glasgow lanark
all listed with parents james park and mary kerr

ev

ps a check on the 1861 census may help prove if this is the family you looking
     for - looking at the index on scotlandspeople they seem to be living at
     hutchesontown lanark

[Stuart P]

There is a marriage James Park to Mary Murray in Glasgow 29th May 1874 - you can download the marriage certificate from Scotlandspeople.gov.uk to get their parents.

[MonicaL]

Hi Jim

Ev's entries for the children do match the household in Everton for 1881. Can't see the reference to Aberdeenshire as yet from the 1861 entry for this family:

James Park 36, candlemaker, b. Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Mary Park 31 b. Irvine Ayrshire
James Park 8 b. Irvine, Aryshire
Franer (?Francis) Park 5 b. Irvine, Aryshire
Grace Park 3 b. Glasgow

Address: 30 Adelphi St, Hutchestontown, Glasgow Govan

Can't see them as yet in Scotland in 1871.

The 1881 census entry simply shows them as born in Scotland apart from youngest daughter. Is it a later census that makes a reference to Aberdeenshire?

Monica 

[marine]

Hi Ev.
      I dont now if that is the marriage or not What I Cannot understand is some are called Murray and other Child is called John Kerr Park    is Murray and Kerr a second Name.

I tried to get on to Scotlandspeople but could get nowhere
                         The Children that they had were
    
                               James   Son        28   Greengrocer
                               Francis  Son        25   Labourer
                               John      Son        18
                              Grace     Daug      23  No Occupation
                              Jane       Daug      06  Scholar
I Dont no if this will help
                               Jim                

[marine]

Hi Monica.
              I Just dont now where about they were born But I'm sure in the 1881 census in Liverpool it said he came from  Aberdour
in Aberdour  they built another Village called it New Aberdour my Daughter daughter has lived there for about 30 years and the village decided do the history of the Village but could find nothing about the family
                  Jim

[MonicaL]

Hi Jim

The original image of the 1881 census entry only shows Scotland for them all apart from youngest Jane  Have a look also at the 1881 index which is free to view on www.familysearch.org

I can't easily see them in England for 1891 to be able to re-confirm birth places.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Just found the family already down in England by 1871 in Liverpool:

James Park 48, oil refiner
Mary Park 41
James Park 18, grocer
Francis Park 15
Grace Park 13
John Park 8

RG10; Piece: 3792; Folio: 124; Page: 40

Everyone again showing as born in Scotland with no additional place name.

Monica

[MonicaL]

There is this possible birth entry showing on IGI at www.familysearch.org

JAMES PARK Birth:23 JUN 1823 Port Glasgow, Renfrew
Parents: JAMES PARK and GRIZEL MURRAY

Grizel is a variant of Grace. Might explain some of the names of the children and the use of the surname Murray for the children of James and Mary (Kerr).

Which line are you following? What is the source of the surname Murray for James' wife Mary?

Monica