Winwick/Lowton Births advice where to look please.

[greenpaula]

I have ancestor William Bonney born 1780/81 in Winwick according to 1851 census.
I also have an affiliation order for him prior to his marriage which says he was from Lowton.
A recent contact has said that his parents were Thomas Bonney and Ann Dickonson who married in 1776 at St. Oswald's Winwick, but they have no date of birth for William or names of any siblings and I think may just have picked out a convenient couple to be William's parents.
This marriage checks out on Lancs OPC but I can find no children to this couple.
William's children were all baptised RC.
Unfortunately I cannot get to the Lancs Record Office so any advice on online resources where I can look next would be greatly appreciated
Paula

[lancsann]

Where were William's children baptised please. Not all RC registers are at the Lancs RO. Is it likely that William was baptised in the same church

[Cancan]

Hi,

If it's any nearer to you,

Manchester Library hold copies of the Registers for St Oswald's in Winwick.


Cancan

[liverpool annie]

I was all excited 'cos I found these on Hugh Wallis .... then I reread your post !!  - but I'll post them anyways in case they are of use to you !! 
         
THOMAS BONNY   Spouse -    ANN DICKONSON   
Marriage - 3rd October 1776  Winwick Lancashire

THOMAS BONNY   
Birth -      8th February 1800     
Christening -    16th February 1800  Culcheth-Rc Culcheth By Winwick, Lancashire
Father -    JACOBI BONNY   (Latin)
Mother -    JOANNAE CROPPER (Latin)

Then ......
Marriage -  3 Oct 1776 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire
Thomas Bonney - of this Parish
Ann Dickonson - (X) of this Parish
Witness - John Letherbarrow  Robert Cross
Banns Read - 8 Sep 1776, 2nd: 15 Sep 1776, 3rd: 22 Sep 1776
Married by Banns by - J Lowe Curate
Register: Marriages 1766 - 1812, Page 185, Entry 2272
   
Marriage - 9 Jun 1802 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire
Thomas Bonney - of this Parish
Elizabeth Swift - of the Parish of Lytham
Witness - Edward Boney  Thos. Walker
Married by Licence by - John Prince Curate
Register - Marriages 1766 - 1812, Page 724, Entry 4

Marriage - 9 Jan 1803 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire
John Higson - (X), of this Parish
Ellen Bonney - of this Parish
Witness - James Bonney; Thos. Walker
Banns Read - 28 Nov 1802, 2nd: 5 Dec 1802, 3rd: 12 Dec 1802
Married by Banns by - Geoffrey Hornby Rector
Register - Marriages 1766 - 1812, Page 735, Entry 2
   
* Just as an aside - School-master Thomas Walker - also fequently appeared as a witness at St. Oswald marriages

[greenpaula]

Hi lancsann
All William's 9 known children were baptised at Bryn Catholic Chapel in Ashton in Makerfield, the first child was Ellen in 1804, my ancestor William baptised there in August 1807, another and the last known child was Susannah baptised in 1816. On various census all the children give their birthplace as Lowton.

Wliiam senior whose birth I'm looking for actually married in St. John's Preston to a Catherine Harrison in 1803. No idea what he or Catherine were doing there, as in the 1851 census Catherine gives her place of birth as St. Helen's.
To date I have not found Catherine Harrison's birth.

Thanks for the info about St. Oswald's records being held at Manchester Cancan - I'm probably closer to Preston but it is useful to know.

Liverpool Annie - those other Bonney names from St. Oswald's may come in useful if Thomas and Ann Dickonson turn out to be my William's parents, as they could potentially be siblings of William.
Any info may help in the future, and I've even got my filing systems sorted properly now so I don't lose the leads, which I have been known to do in the past!

[lancsann]

presumably you have looked at Bryn Chapel for William seniors baptism?

As St John's Preston is a Cof E church, I wonder if it was a mixed marriage and they were also married in an RC church. As you probably know RC records often give more info.

[greenpaula]

Hi
Haven't looked at Bryn Chapel records. They do not seem to be on the Lancs OPC site or IGI.
I got William's childrens baptisms from a distant relative. These were actual phtocopies of registers. I assume when she got these she also checked the Chapel records for earlier Bonneys, but then again, you know what they say about assume!

[lancsann]

Bryn chapel baptism registers in the Lancs RO start at 1776

Do you want a look-up or are you able to get there yourself. Alternatively as you know roughly the year the staff may do a look up for you.

[greenpaula]

Hi Lancsann
So sorry I didn't respond to your last post. I'm just going through my posts for Jan to enter Completed when I spotted this one.
You must think I'm very rude 
If you have time to do a look up in Bryn baptisms at Lancs RO I would be grateful. His name is William Bonney, born 1780 - 1781.