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Wiltshire parish records look up
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 17:08 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for the baptism details of Fred(e)rick Curtis.  His birth date should be 1836/37 in Wiltshire. 

His mother, Sarah Curtis (ne Stockham or Stockholm). was recorded as living in Sutton Benger in the sub-district of Christian Malford in 1839.  Another possible Wiltshire location for the family is Seagry. 

If anyone has access to the parish records, I would be grateful if they could search for the name of Fredrick's father on the baptism certificate. 

Thank you

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Re: Wiltshire parish records look up
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 January 10 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Where did you get that info from?

There is no 1841/51 entry for a Frederick Curtis with a mother Sarah
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 January 10 10:35 GMT (UK) »
It's all a little complicated!

By the time the 1841 census was taken Sarah Curtis had married James Gough.  The family record in the 1841 census shows James Gough, Sarah Gough, Fredrick Gough (4) and Job Gough (1). 

My interest is in the family line of Job.  But I am using Fredrick to find the first name of the man (Curtis) Sarah married before James Gough. 

For all later records of Job after the 1841 census, he is listed as Job Curtis.  So you can see him in the 1851 census as Job Curtis living with James Gough and Ann Gough.  Job is "misrecorded" as grandson.  Sarah has disappeared from the family unit, along with Fredrick by 1851.

I have Job's birth certificate of 12 October 1839 where he has the surname Curtis taken from his mother.  No father is recorded.  Sarah is listed as a Sarah Curtis, a widow with the maiden name Stockham.

Sarah Curtis marries James Gough, 5 months after the birth of Job.  This may be evidence that James is Job's father.  This is further supported because the person who registered Job's birth is Joanna Gough, who I suspect is James' mother.

However it would be useful to know if there is a death record of Sarah's husband named Curtis, and if so, the date of death, so that I can discount him as the father of Job.  This would establish that the family name may be Curtis but the bloodline may well be Gough.  To do this I need the first name of the man Curtis.  I hoped to get this through the baptism record of Fred(e)rick, the older brother of Job, who could be his child during the marriage with Sarah.

Of course, the other way I could tackle this, is by finding the marriage of Sarah Stockham to the man Curtis.  Because the dates of this search would be much wider, I assumed the baptism search would be easier. 

As I said, it's complicated!

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Re: Wiltshire parish records look up
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 January 10 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi
there is a baptism on the vri
Job CURTIS   Date:   18 Apr 1841 at Sherston Magna, Wiltshire
   parents    Abia CURTIS and Sarah

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There are several children baptised to Abia and Sarah if they are the right couple  ???
Ann 28 Oct 1821
Fanny 23 Nov 1823
Emma 26 Feb 1826
William 25 May 1828
Rachel 12 Dec 1830
Elizabeth    1 Nov 1835
Mark 3 Dec 1837
all Sherston Magna
No sign of a frederick though  ???
ABIA was also christened there 24th May 1799 parents Thomas and Mary


Ignore this Abia didn't die until 1872  ::)
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Re: Wiltshire parish records look up
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 January 10 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There are 2 possible ways of finding Mr Curtis - if he existed??

A copy of the 1840 marriage cert between Sara & James Gough would show if she classed herself as a widow and would also (hopefully) show her fathers name which would confirm her maiden name

A copy of Frederick's marriage cert should show his fathers name
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 January 10 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes I could try to find Sarah's marriage record with the man Curtis.  However I thought the baptism of Frederick would be easier to find because we know the rough date of his birth.   

I have not tried to find Frederick's marriage because, as I said, I don't have any record of where he was living beyond the 1841 census.

Do you have access to the Wiltshire parish records?

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 January 10 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

When/where was Sarah born

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Re: Wiltshire parish records look up
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 January 10 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Don't know but this could be a possibility from freereg  http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Bath Somerset  St Michael
Married 22 Sep 1829
Groom Thomas Curtis widower
Bride Sarah STOCKHAM
Witnesses Charles CLEMENT and Robert ORCHARD

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 January 10 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie

Thanks for the look-up.  Unfortunately I can't cross-reference any of the information on that record with my existing information to verify that the Sarah Stockham in the record is my Sarah Stockham.  Would the original parish record have the father of the bride's name listed - Sarah's father is called Benjamin.