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Re: Merchant seamen
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 07 February 10 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Oh Seaweed I could kiss you!

This is the first solid evidence we have of his career.

Yes PLEASE!

Thank you so so much.

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Re: Merchant seamen
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 07 February 10 17:47 GMT (UK) »
CASHIER Official number 72178
Registration number W876004
Single letters QCWV
Built in 1876 by G & A Sewell, Bass River, Londonderry Nova Scotia
Gross tonnage 1426
Net tonnage 1063
3 decks
3 masts
Length 198ft
Width 38
Depth 22
Port of registry Windsor NS
Sold to Russian interests 1889

Owned 1879 by Thomas E Kenny, Merchant, Halifax NS

Captain in 1879 and for most of her career
Alexander Telfer born Creetown Scotland in 1841
Resident of Londonderry NS

I have an entire crew list with basic information but I think you would be best served in obtaining the originals, 1879/1880 from MUN
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Re: Merchant seamen
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 07 February 10 18:02 GMT (UK) »
You are an absolute angel!

Thank you so so much!!!

And I love that little man  ;D

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Re: Merchant seamen
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 07 February 10 20:50 GMT (UK) »
A full name, date and place of birth and the year he died/ disappeared would be a big help.

The man is (Edward ) Thomas Elliott, born 1827/1828 according to his only entry on 1851 Bristol census. No definite census entry after that although there are lots of men with the same name around the country.  According to 1851 he was born in Bristol but I can't find a definite baptism for him or any parents.  The last child attributed to him was born 3rd June 1860.
A researcher looked up records and saw that an Edward Thomas Elliott boarded the ship "Hornby" in Bristol in 1854.

His children married in 1865, 1871, 1873, 1882, 1883 and only on the 1873 marriage does it say "father deceased", although on his wife's death cert in 1889 it calls her a widow.  After watching shows I wondered if he went to the "Gold Rush".
The GRO couldn't find any entries here or overseas which matched.  Lots of people on here have tried to find something about him for me.

I just wondered if he had joined a ship in say Liverpool, then died or disappeared how word would have got to his family?

Thanks.


It may be worthwhile searching
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=5000047&CATLN=6&accessmethod=5
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Re: Merchant seamen
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 07 February 10 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Oh thank you Ann and seaweed, you've been marvellously helpful.

My ancestor was James BELL, the only information I have about him is that his birthplace was shown as Devon in the 1841 census. He and his family lived in Topsham which used to be the seaport for Exeter, so I would expect that's where he sailed from.

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could find anything for me seaweed. Fingers crossed!

Nothing on your man on the MUN CD. Sorry.
You need to find him on a crew list to give you a lead on a ships name. I suggest you search the piece's BT98/251 to BT98/254 inclusive at the national archive at Kew.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/default.asp
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Re: Merchant seamen
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 07 February 10 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Seaweed, thank you very much for looking. I'll have a look at the TNA site as you suggest.  :)
Bell, Salter, Street - Devon, Middlesbrough.
Lickess- North Yorkshire, Middlesbrough.
Etherington - North Yorks and Durham.
Barker- North Yorks
Crooks- Durham
Forster- North Yorks/Durham
Newsam, Pattison, Proud - North Yorks.
Timothy, Griffiths, Jones - South Wales

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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 07 February 10 21:14 GMT (UK) »
I've never used the TNA site before apart from a quick flick through. Am I understanding it correctly that each of the documents will cost me £3.50, so £14 in total for the full lists? I think it will be worth it, just want to make sure that I'm reading it correctly.
Bell, Salter, Street - Devon, Middlesbrough.
Lickess- North Yorkshire, Middlesbrough.
Etherington - North Yorks and Durham.
Barker- North Yorks
Crooks- Durham
Forster- North Yorks/Durham
Newsam, Pattison, Proud - North Yorks.
Timothy, Griffiths, Jones - South Wales

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 07 February 10 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Seaweed, can you see a John [Edward] Boshell anywhere?
He was born about 1842. I have him in the 1861 census, on a ship.[Sorry info not to hand :-[] aged 19 and listed as John Boshall.
He was my gt gr father, and was on my gr mother's birth cert. as 'Master of a Vessel'
Can't find any info on him anywhere.
He died in 1887 in Dublin, where he was born.
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Clulo - Staffs.,Warwickshire, Lancs.1780 -1950
Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
Swindell, Marple & Manchester 1900->
Makinson, M/c & Prestwich 1870 ->
Beacom/Jones - Enniskillen 1780 ->

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 08 February 10 17:51 GMT (UK) »
I've never used the TNA site before apart from a quick flick through. Am I understanding it correctly that each of the documents will cost me £3.50, so £14 in total for the full lists? I think it will be worth it, just want to make sure that I'm reading it correctly.

To have TNA research those  piece numbers I gave you should ask them for an estimate. I very much doubt you would get the documents copied for £14. I think you would be talking in triple figures. You can but ask. A visit to Kew would be your best course.
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